fathom Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 15 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: And has like 4 years of control. I’d much prefer a LHH OF with some flaws like Clifford I don’t disagree but the Sox clearly think there’s a market inefficiency with formerly big prospects who have seen their stock plummet. Vientos was really good most of last year. Between him and Vargas, you hope one of them becomes a legit starter in a few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 9 minutes ago, fathom said: I don’t disagree but the Sox clearly think there’s a market inefficiency with formerly big prospects who have seen their stock plummet. Vientos was really good most of last year. Between him and Vargas, you hope one of them becomes a legit starter in a few years. In a few years one of them is almost a free agent. Actually, I guess both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 21 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: And has like 4 years of control. I’d much prefer a LHH OF with some flaws like Clifford Yup, Clifford might end up at 1B, but at least LF remains possible at the moment. Vientos should not be playing 3B. Even Mets fans agree he is more of 1B or even DH type. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 12 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: In a few years one of them is almost a free agent. Actually, I guess both. And that’s the problem with their approach on trades. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 It would be funny if the bogus Sosa trade to the Mets became real, as I could see him being included with Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 He’s out again today. So tired of him, god forbid he run hard and not get injured during a season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 14 minutes ago, fathom said: I don’t disagree but the Sox clearly think there’s a market inefficiency with formerly big prospects who have seen their stock plummet. Vientos was really good most of last year. Between him and Vargas, you hope one of them becomes a legit starter in a few years. I’m more than ok with pursuing that market inefficiency. I also think power is a massive need for us. I’m just not convinced Vientos is the answer. Part of that is the player, part of it is the fit. I get Robert is a flawed asset, but I’d prefer going in a different direction when trading him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 11 minutes ago, fathom said: It would be funny if the bogus Sosa trade to the Mets became real, as I could see him being included with Robert. Robert + Sosa for Vientos would be terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 10 minutes ago, fathom said: He’s out again today. So tired of him, god forbid he run hard and not get injured during a season. He’s out again??? Now I’m starting to get worried about getting anything for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Ugh… not feeling this Bob nugget: If that's the case I hope we don't trade with the NYM. We already have a RH 1B in Vargas. And Getz is supposed to hate this profile...WTF. We need someone with LH power besides Colson. Forget about Vientos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Loser is out again today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 48 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Is it? Is Vientos even good? He’s a one tool, slow, RH hitting 1B / DH who is hitting worse than Robert right now. His success last year was driven by a 92 percentile barrel rate, which has fallen off a cliff. Can he get back to that elite level? To me, his 2024 season feels like a total outlier. Maybe there is some underlying issue that can be corrected, but I am not excited about acquiring a project 1B / DH type who has four years of control left and will further limit our flexibility in the infield. Robert isn’t bringing in anything that doesn’t have massive warts. He is just as much of a bum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snopek Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 I wonder if talks with teams have progressed enough where the Sox have agreed to hold Robert out until a deal is done (rather than it being a more serious injury). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSoxFanMike Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 9 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I’m thinking this is because teams want to see proof that he’s healthy before they pull the trigger on trading for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 19 minutes ago, fathom said: If they are getting Vientos there better be a good second piece too like Gilbert or Ewing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 9 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: If they are getting Vientos there better be a good second piece too like Gilbert or Ewing. You’re expecting way too much for Robert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 15 minutes ago, Snopek said: I wonder if talks with teams have progressed enough where the Sox have agreed to hold Robert out until a deal is done (rather than it being a more serious injury). Short lived wonder lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 8 minutes ago, fathom said: You’re expecting way too much for Robert. Just say no to RH 1B/DH as main pieces. Gilbert would be much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 13 minutes ago, fathom said: I like those odds!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 25 minutes ago, DirtySox said: lol…and he’s back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, fathom said: I don’t disagree but the Sox clearly think there’s a market inefficiency with formerly big prospects who have seen their stock plummet. Vientos was really good most of last year. Between him and Vargas, you hope one of them becomes a legit starter in a few years. The highest Vientos ever ranked was 92 and that was 6 years ago. I'm not sure id ever had considered him a big prospect - certainly not at Vargas level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 18 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: lol…and he’s back! Mets probably called and said they wanted to see him at least once before they pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’m more than ok with pursuing that market inefficiency. I also think power is a massive need for us. I’m just not convinced Vientos is the answer. Part of that is the player, part of it is the fit. I get Robert is a flawed asset, but I’d prefer going in a different direction when trading him. Can someone actually show me how this is a "mark deficiency?" Id rather keep Robert than trade him for Vientos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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