WhiteSox2023 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, greg775 said: With Meidroth, Elko, Quero to go with Vaughn and Robert who are underachieving? Beni's absence hurts a lot. But with Beni and those guys? Our offense is decent IMO. Stop trolling, bro… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Is a -.2 WAR underachieving? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 6 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: Not as long as JR is the owner. Reinsdorf is embarrassed and was embarrassed losing to the Cubs. So we have that going for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: 26 Texas 3.47 3.00 5.00 3.62 3.29 4.22 27 Colorado 3.38 5.67 14.00 4.33 2.54 4.21 28 Chi Sox 3.37 2.33 3.00 3.90 2.92 3.13 29 Kansas City 3.34 2.00 0.00 3.28 3.41 4.46 30 Pittsburgh 3.07 3.33 2.00 That’s what passes for decent, depending on what standards some of us are using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 38 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Stop trolling, bro… Not trolling. Every one of those guys I mentioned except Robert and Vaughn can hit and those two need to hit. The lineup is not that bad. Last year with DeJong and Co. it was lousy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 33 minutes ago, greg775 said: Not trolling. Every one of those guys I mentioned except Robert and Vaughn can hit and those two need to hit. The lineup is not that bad. Last year with DeJong and Co. it was lousy. Vibes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said: Vibes? https://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat/runs-per-game?date=2024-05-19 Technically last year was worse. On this date a year ago, the Sox were 0.76 runs per game worse than the 29th worst offense in baseball. That was beyond abysmal. This year 28th and close to falling behind KC for 29th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 4 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said: Vibes? Eh. The young guys you want to see succeed (Meidroth, Vargas, Edgar) are succeeding for the most part. What is killing this lineup is Vaughn and Robert. If those two were even...slightly below average it'd look so much better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 13 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: Only some kind of miracle could change it. Back in the Go Go years, the Sox were more popular and I think the Sox were more popular in the first 2 decades of the 20th century leading the Majors in attendance more than a few times while winning 2 World Series but of course the franchise took a beating after the Black Sox scandal. When Reinsdorf took over in 1981 the metro area was just about equally divided and the Sox were the first Chicago team to draw 2 million in 1983 and were the darlings of the area. I have always thought that things really started to change when the Cubs came out of nowhere and won the 1984 division while the Sox floundered that year. The Tribune buying the Cubs and Harry Caray moving to the Northside had huge implications along with WGN becoming a Superstation. Meanwhile with one blunder after another by Reinsdorf has seen the fan base shrink and shrink and I have no idea what the last 3 years are doing to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 7 minutes ago, oldsox said: Sox were so lucky in early 50's. They traded for Fox, Pierce and then Minoso 2 years later. Without those 3 gifts from heaven, Sox would have been long gone and there would be no SoxTalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 18 minutes ago, oldsox said: Sox were so lucky in early 50's. They traded for Fox, Pierce and then Minoso 2 years later. Without those 3 gifts from heaven, Sox would have been long gone and there would be no SoxTalk. Also trades for Lollar who won a few Gold Gloves and Jungle Jim. The World Series starting lineup in 1959 had only 2 home grown products in Aparicio and Landis however we had some great prospects in Callison, Cash, Battey, Romano and Mincher who Veeck all traded away before the 1960 season, I never forgave Veeck for those trades. Edited May 18 by The Mighty Mite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat/runs-per-game?date=2024-05-19 Technically last year was worse. On this date a year ago, the Sox were 0.76 runs per game worse than the 29th worst offense in baseball. That was beyond abysmal. This year 28th and close to falling behind KC for 29th. Four position players emerging this season would be nice. Elko just getting started though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) Vaughn finally benched one game...Sosa Thaiss Vaughn Capra four hitters at 683 or higher Batters CWS B HR RBI SB AVG OPS MeidrothSS R 1 4 5 .286 .726 Vargas, M3B R 5 20 1 .237 .715 PalaciosDH L 1 4 0 .200 .577 Robert Jr.CF R 5 17 17 .176 .573 Rojas, J2B L 0 2 1 .182 .452 QueroC S 0 9 0 .278 .683 Elko1B R 2 4 0 .176 .751 BaldwinLF S 3 16 2 .220 .596 Taylor, MRF R 2 8 6 .205 .627 Edited May 18 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Wow you were safe, PCA. Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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