PaleAleSox Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 12 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Sosa was a good minor league hitter; it's taken him a while to figure out the majors but it looks like he has. Trade rumors doesn't know what they are talking about. I don't know when they went from "news aggregate" to giving an opinion on stuff. Isn't the guy who runs it (or started it at least) a Cubs fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 12 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Sosa was a good minor league hitter; it's taken him a while to figure out the majors but it looks like he has. Trade rumors doesn't know what they are talking about. I read that subpar note about Sosa's hitting earlier today and that jumped out to me as odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, wegner said: I read that subpar note about Sosa's hitting earlier today and that jumped out to me as odd. I like that site, usually they're better about discussing players' attributes. I specifically wanted to see what they wrote about the Vaughn option and was disappointed by the blurb... but the Sosa bit stuck out specifically. If you just look at his bbref page, yeah maybe he looks like a 4th year player who isn't really catching on, but I think we see a player who has finally "figured it out". The "utility player" bit is funny in particular, because I don't think we would've considered him even an average defender before this season. Poor analysis. His double/near grand slam is the highlight for the season of me so far. Very dramatic. He calls time before the at bat begins, then nearly slugs a grand slam with that giant grin on his face. I'd love if there's a photo of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 hours ago, nrockway said: almost looked like a major league lineup today, gonna be really exciting when we get the next crop of players up. Colson and Ramos look like they're turning it around even. The sting of them floundering was helped somewhat by Meidroth and Vargas looking like MLB regulars, but what a boon if they can play to their former top 100 prospect potential. I wish I could be giddy about it but I still look back at the 2020 team like that. I worry there is something very toxic about this organization that I still can't trust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 8 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: I wish I could be giddy about it but I still look back at the 2020 team like that. I worry there is something very toxic about this organization that I still can't trust. Everyone's gone now except for Luis Robert, Jr.,...whose days seem numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 2-0 with dead ass AV gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 57 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: I wish I could be giddy about it but I still look back at the 2020 team like that. I worry there is something very toxic about this organization that I still can't trust. To me, it was the lack of a real farm system. Hard to develop depth, shore up weaknesses, have any staying power at all without one. This crew seems to be trying to build something. On another matter, kudos to whoever found Vasil. I assume he’ll be in what should be an interesting rotation next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, kitekrazy said: I wish I could be giddy about it but I still look back at the 2020 team like that. I worry there is something very toxic about this organization that I still can't trust. perhaps. you're probably right. I wouldn't say I'm giddy, just optimistic. and if a situation could go one of two ways, why not look at the glass as half full (at least when it comes to sport)? I don't think it's a complete fantasy. Fantastical thinking was me thinking our team last year could've played .500 ball. life is miserable enough, baseball is pretty fun, would rather think "that kid is gonna be awesome" versus "we're gonna be in the cellar for the next decade". the latter might be true, but I'd tune out of this team like I tuned out of the Bulls if I believed it and wasn't entertained. my impression is that this reconstituted Sox organization is much less of a mess than whatever Reinsdorf Jr. is doing with the Bulls, and there's some reason to think the Sox will be a contender before the Bulls are. Getz is clearly more competent than Karnisovas despite Karnisovas having a "better resume" and "more experience". also, it just seems like the baseball landscape has changed. we just set the "most losses" record last year, now it appears the Rockies will do it. you add in the terrible 2018 Orioles and 2019 Tigers, it seems that an outsized number of these historically horrific teams set records in the last decade and that it's only getting more extreme. the discrepancy between the 'haves' and 'have nots' is widening, which seems to parallel American society as baseball so often has. this might be an indictment against major league baseball, which isn't the point of this post, but interesting to think about why there are seemingly many more 'bad teams' these days. Now, that historically bad Tigers team has turned into a very good team with more talent in the wings, meanwhile the Orioles built a 'great' team that has already collapsed (a la our 2020 Sox). that's to say, I think our fortune can change quickly and historical precedent is probably not that helpful (same as it wasn't for Garrett Crochet and his lack of innings pitched). I think we should bear in mind how big a step forward for the franchise it was to replace Hahn/Ken. A lot of us give Getz a hard time, maybe it was a nepotistic hire, but the positive organizational changes are becoming more apparent. What would David Stearns have done differently with the Sox aside from not sign Fedde? Would he have brought Juan Soto here lol? Probably would've signed Sean Manea who is not playing major league baseball this year. He hired some very competent people to come work for the team, it would seem. I made a joke in the game thread about how bad the Orioles are since firing Fuller, but the org's three biggest hires this offseason were: Venable, McKinven, Fuller and all three of their former teams have gotten much worse despite similar rosters. Is it a coincidence? Almost certainly, just pretty funny. I think the one total blind spot for fans is amateur scouting and drafting. yet, it seems to me the team has finally gotten over the Wilder saga and is finally back to operating in the DR with a new academy opening in 2026. Ultimately, my take is that there were innumerable mistakes that accumulated over the years that hurt the Sox in the present and that these issues are seemingly being addressed under a new front office. It probably takes years to bear fruit, but I'm not "giving up on the team" specifically because these changes were made and the grand scheme moves make sense to me even if I wonder why guys like Josh Rojas or Martin Maldonado are signed to several-million dollar deals. There are enough bad Getz deals made to go along with the good deals to raise some skepticism, trades or free agency, but so far it seems like the positive outweighs the negative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 14 hours ago, kitekrazy said: I wish I could be giddy about it but I still look back at the 2020 team like that. I worry there is something very toxic about this organization that I still can't trust. It's called ownership with a long track record to prove you not being willing to trust them is probably a very wise decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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