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Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS


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4 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said:

 

I assume you meant to type south part of the lot.  Looking at the rendering below, it doesn't appear to me that a Fire stadium would block much of the skyline view.  I don't imagine the soccer structure would be any taller than the top of the upper deck of the Sox stadium and most of that view is blocked by the scoreboard in LF with a Mets player on it. 

 

The Tribune says the soccer stadium will be 101 feet tall.  At modern ballparks, the top row of the upper deck is usually about 100 feet above the field. So assuming that the baseball park is built on the same grade as the soccer stadium, they shouldn't block each other. 

In the architectural drawings, it looks like they've already decided to sacrifice the left field view in favor of the double deck seating and the scoreboard  -- which almost certainly will be bigger in real life because it will be surrounded by ad panels (and hopefully topped by pinwheels if they have the good sense to put them atop the scoreboard where they belong.)

The main view will be behind center field toward the lakefront South Loop high rises.

 

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Here's a new MLB ballpark rankings that just got posted.   One thing I like about this review is that he groups the ballparks into four categories: Cathedrals, Modern Hits, Safe & Basic, and Swing & Miss.   That seems like a much better way than to argue which park is 17th or 23rd, etc.  I don't think he's listing the ballparks in each category by best to worst in that group.   The other thing I like is the Google Earth 360 view of each stadium.

Sox fans who have a huge chip on their shoulder about Rate Field should probably stop at Tropicana Field and not watch the end of this video.  Cardinals fans might not like that he puts Busch in the Safe & Basic category, either.  

 

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.....and for those who don't want to watch the video, here is how he groups the MLB ballparks:

Cathedrals:  Wrigley, Fenway, Oracle Park, Dodger Stadium, Petco, Camden Yards, PNC Park

Modern Hits:  Truist Park, Comerica Park, Target Field, T-Mobile Park, Citi Field, Coors Field, Rogers Centre

Safe & Basic:  Busch, Yankee Stadium, Citizen Bank Park, American Family Field, Nationals Park, Globe Life Field, Progressive Field, Great American Ballpark, Daikin Park, Load Depot Park, Kauffman

Swing & Miss:  Chase Field, Sacramento ballpark (temp home), Angel Stadium, Tropicana Field, Rate Field

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1 hour ago, 77 Hitmen said:

.....and for those who don't want to watch the video, here is how he groups the MLB ballparks:

Cathedrals:  Wrigley, Fenway, Oracle Park, Dodger Stadium, Petco, Camden Yards, PNC Park

Modern Hits:  Truist Park, Comerica Park, Target Field, T-Mobile Park, Citi Field, Coors Field, Rogers Centre

Safe & Basic:  Busch, Yankee Stadium, Citizen Bank Park, American Family Field, Nationals Park, Globe Life Field, Progressive Field, Great American Ballpark, Daikin Park, Load Depot Park, Kauffman

Swing & Miss:  Chase Field, Sacramento ballpark (temp home), Angel Stadium, Tropicana Field, Rate Field

Minnesota just feels like way too much concrete to me...but maybe an anti Twins bias there.

One thing is for sure...watching some of these Japanese exhibitions and having gone to Kyocera and Tokyo Dome, the experience is equally bad on tv as in person.

That said, a sold out stadium with all the attendant chanting, flags, player-specific cheers, dance groups, fans dressed up with their favorite team's uniforms, there's nothing quite like it.

 

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5 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Here's a new MLB ballpark rankings that just got posted.   One thing I like about this review is that he groups the ballparks into four categories: Cathedrals, Modern Hits, Safe & Basic, and Swing & Miss.   That seems like a much better way than to argue which park is 17th or 23rd, etc.  I don't think he's listing the ballparks in each category by best to worst in that group.   The other thing I like is the Google Earth 360 view of each stadium.

Sox fans who have a huge chip on their shoulder about Rate Field should probably stop at Tropicana Field and not watch the end of this video.  Cardinals fans might not like that he puts Busch in the Safe & Basic category, either.  

 

But does he meet the minimum standards to be allowed to compare the stadiums?

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38 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Minnesota just feels like way too much concrete to me...but maybe an anti Twins bias there.

One thing is for sure...watching some of these Japanese exhibitions and having gone to Kyocera and Tokyo Dome, the experience is equally bad on tv as in person.

That said, a sold out stadium with all the attendant chanting, flags, player-specific cheers, dance groups, fans dressed up with their favorite team's uniforms, there's nothing quite like it.

 

Isn’t that all flagstone?

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