Should be a reasonable expectation for Sox to range from #12-18 in spending (Brewers 19th, fwiw) in GRF and at least 9-12 in the first five years of new downtown facility...perhaps even slightly higher.

Basically that's a $145-170 million range.

It was much higher from 2021-23.

Edited yesterday at 03:33 AM1 day by caulfield12

6 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said:

Interesting invite from the White Sox. This may be the strongest link I've seen between the current ownership group and Ishbia's stadium proposal.

Sounds like a good idea to ask for fans input on ballpark features and amenities. I don't remember Jerry and Eddie doing that in 1989.

rare eminent domain exception

https://www.eminentdomainreport.com/railway-fails-to-establish-right-to-use-eminent-domain

Edited yesterday at 04:22 AM1 day by caulfield12

6 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

"Interesting that Mat Ishbia now comes out in support of Reinsdorf and other Owners for a salary cap."

All thirty ownership groups are united...except for maybe the Dodgers or Mets, who would be surrendering their extravagant spending/contract deferral advantages over the rest of baseball.

Not even clear Mark Walter will be able to hold onto the Dodgers at this point.

The Dodgers and Mets' Stance: The ownership groups for the Dodgers and the Mets have notably remained opposed to or hesitant about a salary cap. As the two highest-spending teams in the league (with payrolls and luxury tax bills eclipsing hundreds of millions of dollars), both franchises benefit from the current system of high spending and luxury taxes rather than a rigid cap that would restrict their ability to spend.

That is not the Dodgers stance.

Los Angeles Times

Commentary: Dodgers owner Mark Walter: 'We’ve got to have...

MLB team owners, Mark Walter included, believe revenue disparity is the main reason a small-market team has not won the World Series in 11 years.

Edited yesterday at 01:56 PM1 day by soxfan18

6 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Should be a reasonable expectation for Sox to range from #12-18 in spending (Brewers 19th, fwiw) in GRF and at least 9-12 in the first five years of new downtown facility...perhaps even slightly higher.

Basically that's a $145-170 million range.

It was much higher from 2021-23.

Impossible to speculate on any of this until the new CBA is dry.

The owners initial proposal had the floor around $170MM.

1 hour ago, soxfan18 said:

Thai is not the Dodgers stance.

Los Angeles Times

Commentary: Dodgers owner Mark Walter: 'We’ve got to have...

MLB team owners, Mark Walter included, believe revenue disparity is the main reason a small-market team has not won the World Series in 11 years.

Then they should opt out of their $8.3 billion RSN deal that they're talking about extending through 2039, too.

No more deferred $$$ contracts.

Go under the ESPN.com/Disney+ banner, like Rob Manfred wants all of mlb teams in one collective package, within the next 2-3 years.

3 hours ago, soxfan18 said:

The owners initial proposal had the floor around $170MM.

And a higher floor doesn’t necessarily equate to better players. It could just lead to the “friends and family plan” players the Sox sign when going after their big free agent target getting paid even more than they are worth.

Edited yesterday at 01:12 PM1 day by Middle Buffalo

19 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said:

James Fegan article about the invitations to these focus groups. It explains why this invite came for the Sox, but the focus groups will actually be hosted by Ishbia's group.

Chicago Sun-Times

Focus group invites sent to White Sox fans as part of Jus...

Despite the appearance of the invites, the focus groups seeking fan feedback will be hosted by Ishbia's City River Holdings venture, rather than the team itself.

regardless of the details I like the event, it's certainly something JR wouldn't have bothered with and it's forward focused beyond just the immediate season.

1 hour ago, 77 Hitmen said:

James Fegan article about the invitations to these focus groups. It explains why this invite came for the Sox, but the focus groups will actually be hosted by Ishbia's group.

Chicago Sun-Times

Focus group invites sent to White Sox fans as part of Jus...

Despite the appearance of the invites, the focus groups seeking fan feedback will be hosted by Ishbia's City River Holdings venture, rather than the team itself.

Has anybody on this site been invited to the focus group? I'm going to call my ticket rep Monday and hopefully get an invite. I would really like to go.

15 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Interesting invite from the White Sox. This may be the strongest link I've seen between the current ownership group and Ishbia's stadium proposal.

Sounds like a good idea to ask for fans input on ballpark features and amenities. I don't remember Jerry and Eddie doing that in 1989.

Looking back at it, JR really messed up with the present stadium design. The original design didn't have the miserable upper deck. He changed the design because he wanted another level of suites. The upper deck ruined the stadium. I hope they don't make the same mistake with the new stadium.

3 hours ago, WBWSF said:

Has anybody on this site been invited to the focus group? I'm going to call my ticket rep Monday and hopefully get an invite. I would really like to go.

Just write to your 'ole pal JR. He's got you covered. Might not be the GM job you wanted, but it's close enough.

14 minutes ago, soulfly said:

Just write to your 'ole pal JR. He's got you covered. Might not be the GM job you wanted, but it's close enough.

“Because @WBWSF is the hero the Sox deserve, but not the one it needs right now…”

Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by WhiteSox2023

23 hours ago, WBWSF said:

Looking back at it, JR really messed up with the present stadium design. The original design didn't have the miserable upper deck. He changed the design because he wanted another level of suites. The upper deck ruined the stadium. I hope they don't make the same mistake with the new stadium.

He took a 1970s/80s-era generic baseball stadium design that was intended for suburban Addison and just had it plopped down at 35th & Shields and then made sure there were 3 luxury levels between the lower and upper deck.

Looking bad, it's astounding how badly they messed up New Comiskey v1.0. At least they did an admirable job in renovating the place over 20 years ago. But some of the design flaws are baked in and can't be fixed by some more renovations.