26 minutes ago, Green Line said:

Well, he should get on it. Chicago is building far less housing than other major cities, which is why prices are exploding. Ishbia should be building something more useful on the land.

Why do you think mlb was granted an anti trust exemption?

Because it's a critical aspect of the city's identity, making it "major league" or not.

Should the Cubs just take over the entire city?

And why wasn't the 78 or current site developed for housing if that was more important than a mere baseball team?

Unless you want an authoritarian interventionist government...you're not going to be able to force entrepreneurs to build what you consider to be the greatest good for the greatest number of people.

That's just not how capitalism works.

46 minutes ago, Green Line said:

We need affordable housing, where is the plan to build that?

40 minutes ago, Green Line said:

Well, he should get on it. Chicago is building far less housing than other major cities, which is why prices are exploding. Ishbia should be building something more useful on the land.

It's literally mentioned in the Crain's article. Right now, the 80-acre Rate Field site sits unused 280 days a year. So, are you suggesting that Amtrak should move out so that the 14th St site be filled entirely with affordable housing while the Sox remain at Rate Field and those parking lots sit empty all but 81 days a year? Or should Amtrak stay put and the Sox should build a stadium district (which most definitely will NOT be affordable housing) at Rate Field? I guess I'm not following what your desired outcome is for getting more housing built - which Chicago definitely needs - by Ishbia.

“If the White Sox decided to leave — that’s a big if, not for sure — how many would love to have roughly 80 acres available for a public conversation about what to make it? Whether it’s residential homes, whether it’s a new sports facility, whether it’s a potential pro sports franchise or a football team, soccer team, or something else. I think the important part of the conversation is what’s next?”

Asked if he has been approached by others about redeveloping Rate Field and its surroundings, Ishbia said “a lot of residential developers” have reached out.

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When did we get to the point in this country where we all feel we are able to just laundry list our demands for other people to do? If we had a functioning federal government, you know, representing the people, this the type of thing they should be doing. But that is a whataboutism for another day.

3 hours ago, soxfan18 said:

Mat & Justin both speak the same way regarding their ownership philosophy.

"I don't own the team, it's the city of Phoenix's team"

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/ePk3DOFcPB

“You’ll never hear me say the word ‘owner’ of the franchise,” Ishbia told The Athletic this week. “I’m the steward of a community asset. This asset, this team, this franchise belongs to the city of Chicago

https://roundtable.io/sports/mlb/white-sox/news/why-justin-ishbia-s-words-matter-and-why-white-sox-fans-are-letting-themselves-believe

Absolutely willing to bet the fan first initiatives carry over from the Suns.

I remember when JR and Einhorn bought the White Sox. Einhorn said numerous times that the White Sox were really owned by the City of Chicago and White Sox fans. He said he was just the placeholder for the team. Einhorn was the one who wanted to move the team to Florida. He wanted out of here. He said Florida was the greatest opportunity for MLB since the Dodgers moved to the west coast. After the White Sox agreed to stay in Chicago Einhorn sold most of his White Sox shares to JR and he left the scene.

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8 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I remember when JR and Einhorn bought the White Sox. Einhorn said numerous times that the White Sox were really owned by the City of Chicago and White Sox fans. He said he was just the placeholder for the team. Einhorn was the one who wanted to move the team to Florida. He wanted out of here. He said Florida was the greatest opportunity for MLB since the Dodgers moved to the west coast. After the White agreed to stay in Chicago Einhorn sold most of his White Sox shares to JR and he left the scene.

He didn't leave the scene though he remained as part of the front office according to the Sox media guides, now he did step back and stop speaking for the organization to the media.

10 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I remember when JR and Einhorn bought the White Sox. Einhorn said numerous times that the White Sox were really owned by the City of Chicago and White Sox fans. He said he was just the placeholder for the team. Einhorn was the one who wanted to move the team to Florida. He wanted out of here. He said Florida was the greatest opportunity for MLB since the Dodgers moved to the west coast. After the White agreed to stay in Chicago Einhorn sold most of his White Sox shares to JR and he left the scene.

Couldn't have been more wrong about TB Miami and Orlando, at least so far...