3 minutes ago, tray said:

Please don't try to make these issues personal and direct your ire toward me. At least understand that this is not all about you or me.

Lies? The facts, as stated are that Ishbia does not own a majority interest in the White Sox and even if/when he would, the White Sox do not own Rate Field or the parking lots. Not sure why Ishbia would now claim that HE has been approached by developers. It seems like a self-serving statement without any sources to back him up or any way to contradict him - very trumpian as we have come to know. Yea, we have a deal...

Did you just tell someone to NOT MAKE THIS PERSONAL? You have been on here literally making up whatever self-serving garbage you want about Ishbia, and you have the nerve to talk about ANYONE making self-serving statements? You are right that it is not all about you, and it would be nice if you could bring that into your own posts, but of course you will not, and will be back to fiction writing.

The rank hatred for Reinsdorf seems to be based on the perception, over time, that JR is greedy. For me, I don't buy into the accusations of greed (especially because it could be an antisemitic trope) as much as his aloofness, inattentiveness, and at times bad judgment. There are countless examples of all of those negative traits.

I also do not buy into any accusation that Reinsdorf has a flawed character. I do not know the man, but any portrayal of him as a wicked self-serving greedy SOB is contradicted by his philanthropy and his love for the White Sox.

At times Jerry has let loyalty impact his judgment. Examples of that are too many to recount but his loyalty to Hahn and KW and to LaRussa were prime examples - things that really clouded his judgment and caused a lot of damage.

Some of my best friends have a profound distaste and dislike of Reinsdorf so I am familiar with that. Now there appears to be a belief by some that anyone will be a better Chairman and steward of the White Sox. A lot of those opinions are based on projection of one more billionaire that none of us really know.

My own opinion of Ishbia is based on what I believe are some short-sighted moves that reek of self-interest and personal profiteering. One example is pursuing a land swap for ISFA property for land he doesn't even own yet - a move that imposes on residents and businesses adjacent to the historic areas of Comiskey Park and Armour Park. Another is trying to foist an artistic rendering of "The Railyards" with numerous and obvious errors which appear to be driven by a condensed, self-imposed timetable, or worse.

This is similar to and in some ways worse than what Einhorn Reinsdorf and Savarise did with the new Comiskey Park concept. The Railyards AI rendering is hot garbage. plain and simple.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by tray

This is a pretty detailed article about the Crain's discussion today from Block Club Chicago. Several interesting items that weren't mentioned in the Crain's article and it's worth a read even if you read the Crain's piece IMO. I found the following paragraph interesting. The extended Riverwalk proposal isn't new, but I hadn't heard about a High Line-like path to Lake Michigan.

"His ideas include extending the Chicago Riverwalk south to Ping Tom Park in Chinatown and creating an elevated walking and biking trail inspired by New York’s High Line, connecting Ping Tom Park to Lake Michigan, although he did not provide specifics. He also wants a transit stop serving The Railyards and said Northwestern Medicine is interested in building there."

Block Club Chicago

Reinsdorf Will Make Final Call On White Sox Move, Not Me,...

Justin Ishbia said any decision on the team's future is up to team chairman Jerry Reinsdorf and said Amtrak had to answer to the backlash over its plans to open a railyard near the current stadium.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by 77 Hitmen

LOL at Ishbia.

Please don't try to make these issues personal and direct your ire toward me. At least understand that this is not all about you or me.

31 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Did you just tell someone to NOT MAKE THIS PERSONAL? You have been on here literally making up whatever self-serving garbage you want about Ishbia, and you have the nerve to talk about ANYONE making self-serving statements? You are right that it is not all about you, and it would be nice if you could bring that into your own posts, but of course you will not, and will be back to fiction writing.

That had to be the most ironic post of the year at Soxtalk. The amount of projection being made there is blinding.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by 77 Hitmen

6 hours ago, Mouthsider said:

Wow. I was wondering how they’d work around the change in elevation at the Hallmark site. Credit where credit’s due, that looks beautiful.

It sounds pretty impressive. Interesting that they're proposing a "lightweight fabric canopy" to provide shade to 65% of the seats. This could end up being a gem of a ballpark for the Royals.

1 hour ago, 77 Hitmen said:

That had to be the most ironic post of the year at Soxtalk. The amount of projection being made there is blinding.

That one takes the cake, though I’m a fan of this one:

6 hours ago, tray said:

I am sorry -not sorry to clarify erroneous and biased information from you and 77 sunset strip.

Ah yes, the erroneous and biased information that we’re spreading by quoting Crain’s articles.