WBWSF Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: Once again the OFFICIAL release said that Ishbia would be investing in the team next year financially. How much clearer can that be to you? Is it going to acquire two "superstars"? Not on your life. But his money will be used to do other things. You are looking at probably a 95+ loss season in 2026 and a labor impasse wiping out at least a portion, possible a very good portion of the 2027 season. We'll see how things look in 2028. You have mentioned in the past that JR is big on spending O.P.M (Other peoples money) I'm hoping JR is going to spend some of Ishbias money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 (edited) 41 minutes ago, MEANS said: If only WBWSF were the GM with Greg as assistant GM....our troubles as a franchise would magically be over. Just sign good ballplayers..... I've written JR a couple of times asking to be interviewed for the GM job. He has never responded to me on the subject. This team would have never been this bad the last few seasons if I was the GM. Of course JR would have fired me simply because I would have never gone along with his program of losing games with a low payroll. Bill Veeck in one of his books said, the future is now. 5 year plans usually lead to more 5 year plans. I believe that losing year after year is crazy. Edited June 16 by WBWSF 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 8 minutes ago, WBWSF said: I've written JR a couple of times asking to be interviewed for the GM job. He has never responded to me on the subject. This team would have never been this bad the last few seasons if I was the GM. Of course JR would have fired me simply because I would have never gone along with his program of losing games with a low payroll. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, WBWSF said: You have mentioned in the past that JR is big on spending O.P.M (Other peoples money) I'm hoping JR is going to spend some of Ishbias money. He hasn't put money into the team yet. He bought up existing minority shares, and has no control. He is going to be investing into the team, which is almost certainly going to turn into stadium dollars, even though it hasn't been publicly been said. I am a believer in the theory that no one is spending for the Sox until after the CBA is settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 12 minutes ago, WBWSF said: You have mentioned in the past that JR is big on spending O.P.M (Other peoples money) I'm hoping JR is going to spend some of Ishbias money. He certainly will, only it will NOT be on players. As Kenny Williams once said, "it is what it is..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted June 16 Author Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: He certainly will, only it will NOT be on players. As Kenny Williams once said, "it is what it is..." I would feel alot better if he announced what he was going to spend the money on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 14 minutes ago, WBWSF said: I would feel alot better if he announced what he was going to spend the money on. You won't know until after the fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 17 minutes ago, WBWSF said: I would feel alot better if he announced what he was going to spend the money on. There will be no modern day Carlton Fisks, Greg Luzinskis, Ron LeFlores, Tom Seavers coming to the White Sox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, FloydBannister1983 said: There will be no modern day Carlton Fisks, Greg Luzinskis, Ron LeFlores, Tom Seavers coming to the White Sox. Not for the next few years anyway. Edited June 16 by Lip Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 56 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Not for the next few years anyway. At least not until after the lockout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 (edited) https://www.mlb.com/news/rafael-devers-trade-reactions-mlb-executives https://www.mlb.com/news/rafael-devers-blockbuster-trade-reaction-takeaways Edited June 17 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, ptatc said: At least not until after the lockout. More likely until after JR is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 15 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: More likely until after JR is gone. He has shown to spend in the middle of the pack so I think he would if not for the lockout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, ptatc said: He has shown to spend in the middle of the pack so I think he would if not for the lockout. You do realize that he's in estate planning phase of his life now right ? That means making sure his kids sell the Sox and keep the Bulls and continue investing in the 1901 Project with the Blackhawks. Why do you talk about him as if this was 25-30 years ago ? There is nothing in Reinsdorf's future plans that include him or his kids investing more than the bare minimum in the Sox. Edited June 17 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: You do realize that he's in estate planning phase of his life now right ? That means making sure his kids sell the Sox and keep the Bulls and continue investing in the 1901 Project with the Blackhawks. Why do you talk about him as if this was 25-30 years ago ? There is nothing in Reinsdorf's future plans that include him or his kids investing more than the bare minimum in the Sox. What's the incentive? I'm pretty sure the valuation for selling the additional shares is already locked in at $1.8 billion or whatever (maybe those controlling shares are even higher)...while the Sox will most likely will continue to fall in value between now and 2029, JR's guaranteed family wealth for multiple generations of Reinsdorfs is already baked into the pie now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted June 17 Author Share Posted June 17 From what I've been reading on reddit,the Red Sox fans are not happy about the Devers trade. This appears to be their white flag trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 9 minutes ago, WBWSF said: From what I've been reading on reddit,the Red Sox fans are not happy about the Devers trade. This appears to be their white flag trade. The timing of it was weird for sure. I'm sure the package they accepted would have been there a month from now, at the Trade Deadline, etc. Edited June 17 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 57 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: The timing of it was weird for sure. I'm sure the package they accepted would have been there a month from now, at the Trade Deadline, etc. I think it's been reported they wanted him and his BS away from the rookie core coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 9 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I think it's been reported they wanted him and his BS away from the rookie core coming up. His contract is a steal compared to last he way contracts are now going, even if he only DH’s (I think he moves to 1B next season). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 22 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I think it's been reported they wanted him and his BS away from the rookie core coming up. His BS? What BS? Devers had been nothing but a good player and teammate his entire tenure in Boston. 18 months ago he signed a 10 year extension, since then he's just been as good as he was before signing. When he signed they assured him he'd stay at third base for a few more years. Then this off-season, they reiterate to him that he's their 3rd baseman - even though they were on the side trying to sign Bregman. Then he found out about the Bregman signing and positional move from the media, while being ask to answer questions about it! He's their franchise player lol. The Red Sox lied, gas lit and pointlessly disrespected their best player. All they had to do was be honest with him and it could have turned out very differently. Edited June 17 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 9 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: The Red Sox lied, gas lit and pointlessly disrespected their best player. All they had to do was be honest with him and it could have turned out very differently. Yes, and all of that's on the Red Sox front office. Then Casas was injured, and Devers should have been more amenable to helping out, instead of pouting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Yes, and all of that's on the Red Sox front office. Then Casas was injured, and Devers should have been more amenable to helping out, instead of pouting. Helping out? Name another best player/star player in MLB history who switched positions twice in a season because the team demanded he do so. Lying shouldn't be rewarded. Edited June 17 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 32 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: His BS? What BS? Devers had been nothing but a good player and teammate his entire tenure in Boston. 18 months ago he signed a 10 year extension, since then he's just been as good as he was before signing. When he signed they assured him he'd stay at third base for a few more years. Then this off-season, they reiterate to him that he's their 3rd baseman - even though they were on the side trying to sign Bregman. Then he found out about the Bregman signing and positional move from the media, while being ask to answer questions about it! He's their franchise player lol. The Red Sox lied, gas lit and pointlessly disrespected their best player. All they had to do was be honest with him and it could have turned out very differently. The Red Sox are very similar to the White is that the love trashing their former players on the way out the door. True or not, who knows. With Devers, they jacked this dude around a ton over position and playing time, so even if he was a shitty teammate, the franchise was a more shitty employer and kind of earned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 15 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Helping out? Name another best player/star player in MLB history who switched positions twice in a season because the team demanded he do so. Lying shouldn't be rewarded. Capitalism = Lying, and it's rewarded on a daily basis. Don't act naive. Team leaders lead. As I said, the team should have communicated better with him. However, he could have acted like an adult man and dealt with the situation without pouting. Public pouting shouldn't be rewarded, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydBannister1983 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 17 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Not for the next few years anyway. New ownership is not highly likely to change the perception of the organization for quite some time if ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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