Lip Man 1 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Says hitters will be the priority: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/07/08/white-sox-draft-mlb-chris-getz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Sanity prevails! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Quote Does that trajectory mean the Sox, who are well on pace to surpass 100 losses again this season, might avoid a fourth consecutive season of that level of failure in 2026? Getz isn’t thinking that way. ‘‘We’ve shown that this year we’re making strides in the right direction,’’ he said. ‘‘We like the group of players that we have here. We’re tacking on more wins. It’s about racking up as many good days as you can, and then you look up and you’ve won seven of your last 10, five of your last six. And before you know it, you’re knocking on the door of the top of the division.’’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 11 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: It’s not about wins and losses yet… Job security for years! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 It feels like this group might be working in their redirection techniques with all of the contradictory rumors floating around. I don't remember there being any talk of Hagen last year, and then poof there he was. Be interesting to see who ISN'T being talked about that would fit their needs best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It feels like this group might be working in their redirection techniques with all of the contradictory rumors floating around. I don't remember there being any talk of Hagen last year, and then poof there he was. Be interesting to see who ISN'T being talked about that would fit their needs best. I wouldn't say Hagen fit their needs best last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 53 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It feels like this group might be working in their redirection techniques with all of the contradictory rumors floating around. I don't remember there being any talk of Hagen last year, and then poof there he was. Be interesting to see who ISN'T being talked about that would fit their needs best. They're picking in a weird. It just depends on the craziness in front of them. None of these players are worth the slot values so teams will be deal hunting early. 49 minutes ago, bmags said: I wouldn't say Hagen fit their needs best last year. He didn't. Best player on the board though. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 59 minutes ago, bmags said: I wouldn't say Hagen fit their needs best last year. Let's be honest, they pretty much need everything, except maybe Catcher. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: It’s not about wins and losses yet… Job security for years! You must want them to draft all college near ready players then. Can't take the time to develop high upside potential players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 9 minutes ago, ptatc said: You must want them to draft all college near ready players then. Can't take the time to develop high upside potential players. Look, this team is going to be bad for the near to mid future, at the very least. If you don't have the time now to develop young kids, you never will. You also need faith in your dev team to draft guys like this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: They're picking in a weird. It just depends on the craziness in front of them. None of these players are worth the slot values so teams will be deal hunting early. He didn't. Best player on the board though. Teams can really set themselves up fir failure by skipping the best player available and drafting for need. If the players are good they can trade them later for what they need. The baseball draft is a different animal than other sports though. Teams take lesser players to save money to spend on high upside players later so this can change that while philosophy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Look, this team is going to be bad for the near to mid future, at the very least. If you don't have the time now to develop young kids, you never will. You also need faith in your dev team to draft guys like this. I agree. But if they fire Getz now because he isn't winning RIGHT NOW, the process will start all over again because the team won't draft fir the good of the team. They will draft to save their jobs. Which means the players closest to the MLB not necessarily the best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 We need everything. You have to draft best player available......if that's a pitcher then you take the pitcher. You can never have enough pitching. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 I just don't understand how you all plan to get hitting. Last year this board was blown away as top 50 pitching prospects were being traded for expiring contract hitters. 4 to 1 deals (all pitching prospects) sent out for hitters and pitchers. But it took sending out a starting pitcher and top reliever to get a 24 year old hitter with his prospect shine off in vargas. Milwaukee traded an ace for a deal of way weaker position prospects than this board expected. Catchers and pitchers - that's what's available in trades. Our BPA pick last year is awesome until he had forearm soreness and we realized the guy already had TJS. Was a smidge away from a 2-time tommy john pitcher before he stepped foot on a mound for the sox. We'll be a team of Mike Tauchman-level signings and whomever first-round pitchers aren't on the shelf for tommy john for the next decade. BPA just is not a thing in the mlb draft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 11 minutes ago, bmags said: I just don't understand how you all plan to get hitting. Last year this board was blown away as top 50 pitching prospects were being traded for expiring contract hitters. 4 to 1 deals (all pitching prospects) sent out for hitters and pitchers. But it took sending out a starting pitcher and top reliever to get a 24 year old hitter with his prospect shine off in vargas. Milwaukee traded an ace for a deal of way weaker position prospects than this board expected. Catchers and pitchers - that's what's available in trades. Our BPA pick last year is awesome until he had forearm soreness and we realized the guy already had TJS. Was a smidge away from a 2-time tommy john pitcher before he stepped foot on a mound for the sox. We'll be a team of Mike Tauchman-level signings and whomever first-round pitchers aren't on the shelf for tommy john for the next decade. BPA just is not a thing in the mlb draft. I don't, which is why I don't think this team will be good at anytime in the rest of this decade. I do not see nearly enough offensive talent, nor a compelling reason to add to this team in any meaningful way in free agency. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, ptatc said: I agree. But if they fire Getz now because he isn't winning RIGHT NOW, the process will start all over again because the team won't draft fir the good of the team. They will draft to save their jobs. Which means the players closest to the MLB not necessarily the best players. I don't think they should fire Getz now or at the end of the year. I pretty much think Getz doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground, but he is making changes so let it ride and hope to see if some of it sticks. His replacement at this time will just be another stooge. I'm guessing we stay uncompetitive until Ishbia takes over. And then the hope is he hires someone who keeps anything tangible and burns the rest to the ground and starts over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, bmags said: I just don't understand how you all plan to get hitting. Last year this board was blown away as top 50 pitching prospects were being traded for expiring contract hitters. 4 to 1 deals (all pitching prospects) sent out for hitters and pitchers. But it took sending out a starting pitcher and top reliever to get a 24 year old hitter with his prospect shine off in vargas. Milwaukee traded an ace for a deal of way weaker position prospects than this board expected. Catchers and pitchers - that's what's available in trades. Our BPA pick last year is awesome until he had forearm soreness and we realized the guy already had TJS. Was a smidge away from a 2-time tommy john pitcher before he stepped foot on a mound for the sox. We'll be a team of Mike Tauchman-level signings and whomever first-round pitchers aren't on the shelf for tommy john for the next decade. BPA just is not a thing in the mlb draft. Seriously doubt this comment, JR won't be around in 10 years, Ishbia will be in charge and my guess is things will be a lot different. At the very least they can't get any worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 2 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Seriously doubt this comment, JR won't be around in 10 years, Ishbia will be in charge and my guess is things will be a lot different. At the very least they can't get any worse. I think he will just to spite us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) Law, Mayo, ESPN and Fangaphs all had at least 2 players that were available at 5 ranked ahead of Smith, and all of them had Wetherholt ranked ahead of Smith. BPA hitter v. pitcher is really hard to determine anyway. And as Mags points out, teams don't trade their hitting prospects (except catchers, presumably because they generally hit well "for a catcher."). But I don't see the elite hitter in this draft (maybe Irish or Jace?, but high risk). The one angle is to trade for a recent draft choice- before the team that drafts him really cherishes him. That said, there aren't many great hitters out there. Teams win with a bunch of guys in the .700s. Get the pitching, defense squared away, so that at least we'll be ready when the hitters develop (which some will). And get some speed on this team, please. Edited July 9 by GreenSox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 2 hours ago, champagne030 said: I don't think they should fire Getz now or at the end of the year. I pretty much think Getz doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground, but he is making changes so let it ride and hope to see if some of it sticks. His replacement at this time will just be another stooge. I'm guessing we stay uncompetitive until Ishbia takes over. And then the hope is he hires someone who keeps anything tangible and burns the rest to the ground and starts over. Firing Getz doesn't solve anything, but that doesn't make him any less deserving. Ultimately you are correct though, one incompetent boob replacing another doesn't change the calculus until there is change at the very top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 9 Author Share Posted July 9 23 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Firing Getz doesn't solve anything, but that doesn't make him any less deserving. Ultimately you are correct though, one incompetent boob replacing another doesn't change the calculus until there is change at the very top. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 6 hours ago, ptatc said: Teams can really set themselves up fir failure by skipping the best player available and drafting for need. If the players are good they can trade them later for what they need. The baseball draft is a different animal than other sports though. Teams take lesser players to save money to spend on high upside players later so this can change that while philosophy. It’s not about the best player available in baseball. It’s about maximizing the bonus pool space and getting as much talent as possible for the finite amount of funds afforded. 2 hours ago, GreenSox said: Law, Mayo, ESPN and Fangaphs all had at least 2 players that were available at 5 ranked ahead of Smith, and all of them had Wetherholt ranked ahead of Smith. BPA hitter v. pitcher is really hard to determine anyway. And as Mags points out, teams don't trade their hitting prospects (except catchers, presumably because they generally hit well "for a catcher."). But I don't see the elite hitter in this draft (maybe Irish or Jace?, but high risk). The one angle is to trade for a recent draft choice- before the team that drafts him really cherishes him. That said, there aren't many great hitters out there. Teams win with a bunch of guys in the .700s. Get the pitching, defense squared away, so that at least we'll be ready when the hitters develop (which some will). And get some speed on this team, please. Chris Getz thought Hagen Smith would be a front of the rotation starter (still very possible) and he trusted the orgs pitching development to maximize that player. He thought it was a better idea than Konnor Griffin (swing change) and Jac Caglianone (corner profile, chase rate) etc. The White Sox had no hitting infrastructure in place yet and Ryan Fuller was still employed by the Orioles. The medical team also red flagged JJ Wetherholt. I would’ve taken Konnor Griffin. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 9 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: It’s not about the best player available in baseball. It’s about maximizing the bonus pool space and getting as much talent as possible for the finite amount of funds afforded. Chris Getz thought Hagen Smith would be a front of the rotation starter (still very possible) and he trusted the orgs pitching development to maximize that player. He thought it was a better idea than Konnor Griffin (swing change) and Jac Caglianone (corner profile, chase rate) etc. The White Sox had no hitting infrastructure in place yet and Ryan Fuller was still employed by the Orioles. The medical team also red flagged JJ Wetherholt. I would’ve taken Konnor Griffin. getting unlikely. Getz and Hahn made mistakes at #1 almost every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) 10 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: It’s not about the best player available in baseball. It’s about maximizing the bonus pool space and getting as much talent as possible for the finite amount of funds afforded. Chris Getz thought Hagen Smith would be a front of the rotation starter (still very possible) and he trusted the orgs pitching development to maximize that player. He thought it was a better idea than Konnor Griffin (swing change) and Jac Caglianone (corner profile, chase rate) etc. The White Sox had no hitting infrastructure in place yet and Ryan Fuller was still employed by the Orioles. The medical team also red flagged JJ Wetherholt. I would’ve taken Konnor Griffin. Hagen Smith also needed a significant mechanical overhaul. Green sox point was claiming the Sox took the clear BPA is BS. Every single amateur requires development and change. Edited July 10 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 10 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: It’s not about the best player available in baseball. It’s about maximizing the bonus pool space and getting as much talent as possible for the finite amount of funds afforded. Chris Getz thought Hagen Smith would be a front of the rotation starter (still very possible) and he trusted the orgs pitching development to maximize that player. He thought it was a better idea than Konnor Griffin (swing change) and Jac Caglianone (corner profile, chase rate) etc. The White Sox had no hitting infrastructure in place yet and Ryan Fuller was still employed by the Orioles. The medical team also red flagged JJ Wetherholt. I would’ve taken Konnor Griffin. 18 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: They're picking in a weird. It just depends on the craziness in front of them. None of these players are worth the slot values so teams will be deal hunting early. He didn't. Best player on the board though. Make it make sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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