Robert Thread: Sox talking to Reds, Mets

[The CashMan]

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

There was an earlier offer, the Sox wanted another player:

 

 

I thought that was last offseason. 

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Bleday

He’d probably be my #2 option and the better long-term play given his potential team control.

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

He projected 1/8 for Kepler. At that point you might as well spend a little more and get a guy who can play CF in Bader.

Bader is likely getting three years.  I want nothing to do with a multi-year commitment to Bader.

[BamaDoc]

Could you get Ewing from the Mets with an eye more to 27-28?

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, Timmy U said:

Kepler is toast. Giving him an $8 mil severance package would be a very bad idea. Tauchman is considerably better at this point. 

Why do you think he’s toast?

For Tauchman, my only fear is he got non-tendered over a $3.5M salary.  Even with some injury risk, he’s worth that salary if he can provide even passable RF defense.  Makes me worry his ability to play the OF may be compromised some by his recent health issues.

[SoCalChiSox]

16 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Meidroth is the primary backup SS when needed.  Baldwin or Sosa can cover there in an emergency.  I think that’s a totally fine to handle the position.

I expect Sosa to be on the move shortly since Murakami makes a bat only 1B type in Sosa moot.

[caulfield12]

10 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

I expect Sosa to be on the move shortly since Murakami makes a bat only 1B type in Sosa moot.

So you prefer the rotating DH?

What is Sosa actually worth on the trade market?

Somewhere between peak Christopher Morel and the Morel of 2024-25?

Edited 1 hour ago by caulfield12

[Timmy U]

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Why do you think he’s toast?

For Tauchman, my only fear is he got non-tendered over a $3.5M salary.  Even with some injury risk, he’s worth that salary if he can provide even passable RF defense.  Makes me worry his ability to play the OF may be compromised some by his recent health issues.

Kepler was in a platoon last year yet was still unplayable down the stretch for the Phillies. .1 bWAR is pretty rough

[WestEddy]

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

So you prefer the rotating DH?

What is Soda actually worth on the trade market?

Somewhere between peak Christopher Morel and the Morel of 2024-25?

That's probably a fair comp. 

[Chicago White Sox]

12 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

I expect Sosa to be on the move shortly since Murakami makes a bat only 1B type in Sosa moot.

I think he’s worth more to us a 10th man than what he’d return on the trade market.

[PaleAleSox]

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I think he’s worth more to us a 10th man than what he’d return on the trade market.

Getz is gonna fleece some GM for a top 50 prospect. HE IS MORE MACHINE THAN MAN.

[Chicago White Sox]

10 minutes ago, Timmy U said:

Kepler was in a platoon last year yet was still unplayable down the stretch for the Phillies. .1 bWAR is pretty rough

He had a 115 wRC+ from August to October.

That being said, I don’t use bWAR but assuming he must have had a lower value on his defense than Fangraphs.  On the defense side, he did switch over to LF for the first time in his career and that might have caused some defensive fall-off.  Ultimately to me he looks like a declining player but one with a little bit of juice left.  Maybe $8M is a bit too high for what will likely be limited production, but seeing Lane Thomas get like $5.5M indicates it’s a weak OF market and guys will get a premium.

[Lukakke Appling]

Pirates could really use a RH bat. Plop Robert between Cruz, Horowitz, O’Hearn, and Lowe and he’ll face his share of LHP’s. 

[ChiSoxFanMike]

7 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said:

Pirates could really use a RH bat. Plop Robert between Cruz, Horowitz, O’Hearn, and Lowe and he’ll face his share of LHP’s. 

Sosa could also make sense for them.

[ChiSoxFanMike]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Bader is likely getting three years.  I want nothing to do with a multi-year commitment to Bader.

Yeah I wouldn’t give 3 years to Bader. 2 maybe and even that might be too much. JJ Bleday could also make sense as a stopgap option.

[caulfield12]

53 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

He had a 115 wRC+ from August to October.

That being said, I don’t use bWAR but assuming he must have had a lower value on his defense than Fangraphs.  On the defense side, he did switch over to LF for the first time in his career and that might have caused some defensive fall-off.  Ultimately to me he looks like a declining player but one with a little bit of juice left.  Maybe $8M is a bit too high for what will likely be limited production, but seeing Lane Thomas get like $5.5M indicates it’s a weak OF market and guys will get a premium.

Or Refsnyder's deal...pure platoon guy.