24 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

I'd offer him a 4 year extension at 120 million but you know JR wouldn't even consider it.

Would that even be close to enough? In just over 100 plate appearances, he has not really shown that he needed time to get acclimated to MLB pitching. I’m sure that could change as pitchers figure out his weak spots more and more but I can’t imagine he won’t adjust. I’m sure Murakami knows who he is and I wouldn’t be surprised if he already thinks he’s a top hitter in the MLB.

I guess my point is, if you already had $40 million or so guaranteed coming to you, not including what you earned in Japan, and you are already tearing up the MLB, would you rush to sign an extension for $120 million?

Or would you wait until the end of next season and see what kind of offers you could get in unrestricted free agency? Because those offers could potentially be double or possibly triple that $120 million.

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by WhiteSox2023

13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Would that even be close to enough? In just over 100 plate appearances, he has not really shown that he needed time to get acclimated to MLB pitching. I’m sure that could change as pitchers figure out his weak spots more and more but I can’t imagine he won’t adjust. I’m sure Murakami knows who he is and I wouldn’t be surprised if he already thinks he’s a top hitter in the MLB.

I guess my point is, if you already had $40 million or so guaranteed coming to you, not including what you earned in Japan, and you are already tearing up the MLB, would you rush to sign an extension for $120 million?

Or would you wait until the end of next season and see what kind of offers you could get in unrestricted free agency? Because this offers could potentially be double or possibly triple that $120 million.

OT, but what I was referring to in the game thread was an exercise some scouting departments do. It's a habit to see a black CF, and compare him to Mike Cameron, or Lance Johnson. The exercise is to think of a non-black CF to compare his ceiling to. I was just saying I was guilty of seeing Pereira and comparing him to Avasail Garcia, another Venezuelan RF.

22 minutes ago, GGajewski18 said:

It would be much longer than this. 6-8 years at minimum

Just depends on what he's looking for imo. a 30 million AAV is nothing to sneeze at for a corner slugger and lines up fairly well with the Pete Alonzo contract. he'd still be young enough to get another solid deal as well.

If I'm the Sox I don't want more years, so maybe increase the AAV a bit more. Say 4 years 130.

This is just fantasy tho. We'll be lucky to hold on to him through next year if he keeps this up.

36 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Would that even be close to enough? In just over 100 plate appearances, he has not really shown that he needed time to get acclimated to MLB pitching. I’m sure that could change as pitchers figure out his weak spots more and more but I can’t imagine he won’t adjust. I’m sure Murakami knows who he is and I wouldn’t be surprised if he already thinks he’s a top hitter in the MLB.

I guess my point is, if you already had $40 million or so guaranteed coming to you, not including what you earned in Japan, and you are already tearing up the MLB, would you rush to sign an extension for $120 million?

Or would you wait until the end of next season and see what kind of offers you could get in unrestricted free agency? Because this offers could potentially be double or possibly triple that $120 million.

Japanese culture has US similarities but big also differences. I dont think maximizing every possible dollar matters as much in Asian cultures. Doesn't mean its not important, but other things matter more.

they should probably wait until after his first season for an extension, no need to rush into it quite yet, though I wouldn't be mad if they did

“Obviously, there weren’t teams that raised their hands when I came over,’’ Murakami said, “but I’m really glad and happy that the White Sox picked me up. … I love the team very much. All my teammates are very open to communication. They are really just good teammates overall. Staff, coaches, I love them very much."

[...]

Certainly, he has played a major factor in their surge. The White Sox have 32 homers this year, ranking third in the American League and sixth in MLB. A year ago, they were next-to-last, with only the Kansas City Royals hitting fewer.

“He’s a game-changer," White Sox outfielder Andrew Benintendi said. “He’s impacted this whole lineup. I love hitting in front of him. I see more balls in the zone, and especially heaters.

[...]

The White Sox’s young players have been mesmerized by Murakami since his arrival. They marvel at his meticulous preparation. The way he takes batting practice. The way he grinds tape. There’s a genuine purpose to everything he does from the moment he enters the clubhouse.

“Just watching him go about his day-to-day business and the detail that he puts in and the amount of time he puts in," White Sox catcher Kyle Teel says, “it’s just awesome to see. He’s very detail oriented. The details he puts in is just fantastic.

“So, when the game starts, the success doesn’t surprise me because he just works so hard. He competes the same way every single at-bat, no matter what the score or situation. He never gets down on himself. I just love that."

[...]

The White Sox also are learning that despite the language barrier, the dude can be a comedian. He’ll crack jokes. He’ll go along with pranks. And he’ll even sing, picking up the tunes and learning the words from the Party Apple Peel, an alternative rock cover band in Chicago.

The White Sox players still are laughing about the time he took the mic on the team bus and belted out a few tunes, much to their pleasure as part of his rookie initiation.

“He’s got a great sense of humor," White Sox shortstop Colson Montgomery said. “Actually, he’s hilarious. You pull back the layers after first meeting someone, and you find out he’s one of the boys."

Fun read. Obviously some of it is the affability of Mune himself, but in addition to the on field stuff it's been great to watch how comfortably he seems to have settled in even after missing some time with the team for the WBC.

Honestly, I think I would be worried if Mune was ready to sign an extension that quickly. I want a dude with the confidence to bet on themselves, to some extent.

23 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Honestly, I think I would be worried if Mune was ready to sign an extension that quickly. I want a dude with the confidence to bet on themselves, to some extent.

This is ridiculous.

27 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Honestly, I think I would be worried if Mune was ready to sign an extension that quickly. I want a dude with the confidence to bet on themselves, to some extent.

I’d take that extension deal in a heartbeat right now. I don’t think Murakami would accept it but I have no faith in Jerry approving what the years and money will end up being in free agency once any and all teams can make offers.

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by WhiteSox2023

3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This is ridiculous.

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by 46DidIt

crazy because there's legit competition this year, I think the voters will hold his prior pro experience against him if he ends the season with really good numbers

30 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This is ridiculous.

He already settled once. Settling again less than a month into the season just seems wrong. In a year? Sure.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Honestly, I think I would be worried if Mune was ready to sign an extension that quickly. I want a dude with the confidence to bet on themselves, to some extent.

Makes sense. That Bryce Harper at 19 “I’ll just go out and post numbers and prove all the doubters wrong mentality.”

There were certainly some rising doubts with Mune after that first prolonged side and he was down in the 140s and K’ing 50% of the time, but he and Colson both came out of it nicely, to say the least.

With the month nearly over, his slugging percentage has been at or above .600 at the end of nearly every day, and his K% is 32% – which, he if ends April that way, would make him one of 42 players to ever have a performance like that in a month where they stepped to the plate at least 100 times. [...]

Among those previous 41, they break down like this:

• 29 made at least one All-Star team

• 12 did not

While not a perfect way to look at it – it doesn’t count Nick Kurtz last year, who somehow managed to do it over a full season without doing it in any individual month – that’s a good rate of return, and the “made at least one All-Star team” somewhat undersells the skill in that group. Aside from [Tony] Pérez, it includes current or obvious future Hall of Famers like Trout, Shohei Ohtani and Jim Thome, as well as legendary sluggers like Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire, multiple-time All-Stars like George Springer, Ronald Acuña Jr., Ryan Howard and Rafael Devers, or other big-power/big-whiff guys like Eugenio Suárez and Chris Davis. [...]

If you take a look at those who didn’t really work out here, part of the strikeout issue was that they simply swung too much. Robert has a 57% career swing rate, Keston Hiura had a career 51% swing rate, Wisdom ran 48%, and on and on.

Murakami, however, has a 38% swing rate. It’s one of the 20 lowest marks in the game. His chase rate is in the 94th percentile, also one of the best marks in the game. [...]

When he doesn’t swing, he’s been worth +9 in Statcast Run Value, tied for sixth-best, meaning he’s collecting value by working counts in his favor or drawing walks. When he does swing, he’s been worth +1 run, because the value gained by the homers is about the same as the value lost by all the whiffs.

38 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Interesting. I tackled this here a few days ago but focused more on whiff% because I think that has a higher failure correlation than simply strikeout%. You can strike out a lot without swinging and missing a lot by simply working counts more than an aggressive hitter. Guys can have + hit tools and high strike out rates.

His zone command being elite helps him a lot, but whiffing in the zone a lot and succeeding for extended periods of time is much less common.

12 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

I'm sure there isn't, but I wouldn't tell anyone if I was Getz and they were talking about it.

12 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Oh well…

Still impressed that Krusty would actually ask Getz a good question.

14 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I'm sure there isn't, but I wouldn't tell anyone if I was Getz and they were talking about it.

Even with an infinite budget, I wouldn't expect it this early regardless. Though I do remember Getz citing a good/established relationship with Mune's agent as something that helped with the signing.

8 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Even with an infinite budget, I wouldn't expect it this early regardless. Though I do remember Getz citing a good/established relationship with Mune's agent as something that helped with the signing.

Casey Close of Excel Sports Management. Same agent/agency as Benintendi.

11 straight HR-only XBH to start a career is a new MLB record. Also ties him for the league lead.

If Mune were to win the HR title, he'd be the first Sox to do so since Dick Allen in 1974.

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by Autumn Dreamin

Another record

he might be passing up Alonso contract level...Schwarber the better comp

except he's basically in the prime of his career

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by caulfield12

12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

he might be passing up Alonso contract level...Schwarber the better comp

except he's basically in the prime of his career

Yep, he’s only 26. He’s passed them both up. He will be in line for a mega contract once he’s a FA due to his age.

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by WhiteSox2023