Non-White Sox Off-Season Hot Stove

[Bob Sacamano]

I wouldn’t even want to play any of the infielders the Mets could trade us in the infield over any of the guys currently here. Someone moving to CF like Acuna? Maybe. Just don’t really want him either unless something or two more enticing came with him.

[WestEddy]

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Why do they want infielders though?

I think the Sox have been intrigued by the possibility of LuisAngel Acuña in CF. Baty has played LF. Baty could also push Vargas into the OF. 

[southsider2k5]

50 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

This is why some posters were interested in Shaw, even though the Sox infield is full.  But Conforto is still good, right?

 

Or, we could just move our own surplus IFs to the OF and save our assets.

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

Yeah, I think of it more like who could push to the OF out of Baty, Mauricio, Acuna (pass), Vientos (not likely). I'd really like to target Santucci as the 2nd piece in a deal.

[WestEddy]

2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I wouldn’t even want to play any of the infielders the Mets could trade us in the infield over any of the guys currently here. Someone moving to CF like Acuna? Maybe. Just don’t really want him either unless something or two more enticing came with him.

Baty is a better fielder at 3B than Vargas. 

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, Capn12 said:

42 million a year for Bo Bichette?

 

Yeah, we're getting a lockout.

I’m not saying he’s worth it, but you have to remember with these insane long-term contracts that the AAV’s are very much diluted by back years with limited expected production.  Tucker’s contract very much makes sense for expected production over the next four years.

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Robert for Vientos?

Where would he even play?

[Bob Sacamano]

2 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Baty is a better fielder at 3B than Vargas. 

Perfect. Then I guess you can push Vargas to LF

[Chicago White Sox]

41 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Why is it better that so many teams refuse to compete and to bring the league down to that level?

Again, why is this an either/or thing?  Both are fucking problems and should be addressed.

[Chicago White Sox]

14 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I mean, I wouldn't think they'd want one.. But if it's also the best offer you get by quite a bit, you just take it.

Gotta disagree.  You don’t trade Robert to add an infielder you have nowhere to play.  Either get something that helps long-term or you hold out until the trade deadline.

[fathom]

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Gotta disagree.  You don’t trade Robert to add an infielder you have nowhere to play.  Either get something that helps long-term or you hold out until the trade deadline.

Vientos would DH and they want/need to trade Robert now for financial reasons.

[Sleepy Harold]

 

[WhiteSox2023]

11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m not saying he’s worth it, but you have to remember with these insane long-term contracts that the AAV’s are very much diluted by back years with limited expected production.  Tucker’s contract very much makes sense for expected production over the next four years.

Exactly.  This new strategy by MLB teams finally makes sense.  High AAV and lower years.  Teams finally wised up.  Why pay a guy $25-$30 million on a 10 year deal until they are well past retirement?

[Chicago White Sox]

14 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I think the Sox have been intrigued by the possibility of LuisAngel Acuña in CF. Baty has played LF. Baty could also push Vargas into the OF. 

Acuna doesn’t do anything for me unless he’s a secondary piece.  If my scouts felt Baty could play LF, I’d do that trade in a heartbeat.  Not sure the Mets give up four years of Baty for Robert though unless they are super desperate for a CF.

[Chicago White Sox]

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Vientos would DH and they want/need to trade Robert now for financial reasons.

Where do you see we need to trade Robert for financial reasons?

[Chicago White Sox]

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Vientos would DH and they want/need to trade Robert now for financial reasons.

Also, it’s very clear they want to rotate Benintendi much more frequently through the DH spot.  Between that and the Quero/Teel situation, I don’t see any room for another DH.  And even if there is room, Sosa is arguably the best player than Vientos?  I have no idea why we’d be interested in RH DH type at this point.

[Chicago White Sox]

5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Exactly.  This new strategy by MLB teams finally makes sense.  High AAV and lower years.  Teams finally wised up.  Why pay a guy $25-$30 million on a 10 year deal until they are well past retirement?

Theoretically you do it to maximize your payroll space in the near term, but I think GMs are starting to see those landmines fast approaching with past mega deals and trying to be smarter about it.

[fathom]

11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Where do you see we need to trade Robert for financial reasons?

It’s been the plan all along supposedly

[Chicago White Sox]

1 minute ago, fathom said:

It’s been the plan all along supposedly

Who is saying this?

[Lukakke Appling]

Realmuto back to Philly for 3/45. Domino’s falling fast. 

[southsider2k5]

24 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Again, why is this an either/or thing?  Both are fucking problems and should be addressed.

Because we should be punishing bad behavior, not someone who is trying.

[Bob Sacamano]

10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Who is saying this?

Pretty sure fathom has sources 

Edited 1 hour ago by Bob Sacamano

[SoCalChiSox]

9 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said:

Realmuto back to Philly for 3/45. Domino’s falling fast. 

So much for getting a haul from them for Quero.

Dammit

[Chicago White Sox]

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Because we should be punishing bad behavior, not someone who is trying.

Gotcha…so you dislike market size parity in sports.  Unfortunately for everyone else, both are huge problems.  And to say a team with significantly more revenue is trying more because they spend more is like saying I’m a better dad because I buy my kids more Christmas gifts than someone with less means.  It’s a ridiculous argument that ignores a key underlying element of the broader situation.

[Chicago White Sox]

4 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Pretty sure fathom has sources 

If it’s NorthsideBob, we have confirmed he’s not all that he claims to be.