Chick Mercedes Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 already covered a month or so ago not a legit prospect, either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldsox Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 7 hours ago, caulfield12 said: already covered a month or so ago not a legit prospect, either Probably not a legitimate lawyer, either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 46 minutes ago, oldsox said: Probably not a legitimate lawyer, either. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Clot shot claims another victim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 25 minutes ago, ron883 said: Clot shot claims another victim! More like not good enough minor leaguer is broke and needs a few bucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ron883 said: Clot shot claims another victim! Ummm...indiscriminate regime change leads to predicably worsening outcomes, skyrocketing gas prices and $39 trillion in debt. FCC says two sides. Salk was funded by Soros!!! Measles are a hoax. Edited March 8 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 46 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Ummm...indiscriminate regime change leads to predicably worsening outcomes, skyrocketing gas prices and $39 trillion in debt. FCC says two sides. Salk was funded by Soros!!! Measles are a hoax. You need to listen to less fake news and more Joe Rogan. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ron883 said: You need to listen to less fake news and more Joe Rogan. Sounds like a Greg quote. Except it would be about Maher. Don't think Rogan's a big war hawk, either. Going by the recent White House prayer circle, I'm more concerned that faith is perceived as equal to modern medicine/technology. Edited March 8 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 5 hours ago, ron883 said: You need to listen to less fake news and more Joe Rogan. you mean fewer doctors and chemists and more guys who hosted reality tv shows about eating bugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 17 minutes ago, nrockway said: you mean fewer doctors and chemists and more guys who hosted reality tv shows about eating bugs? Joe Rogan is pretty cool, isn’t he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Joe Rogan is pretty cool, isn’t he? well he's rich...but so WAS the Sandy Hook conspiracy guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 12 hours ago, ron883 said: Clot shot claims another victim! I am no anti vax person, but I will say, my wife had a reaction to the Covid shot that triggered an autoimmune disorder that almost killed her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 "Unfortunately, public health ethics is often reduced to a utilitarian ethic that justifies intervention or imposes behavioral modification at the infringement of personal rights and values based on the greater good, often at the detriment or upon the backs of the most vulnerable. Public health, vis-à-vis local health departments, implements evidence-based interventions with a concern for social justice to achieve health equity. Public health maintains a duty to the community to address health concerns that individuals cannot solve and that require collective action." There's no collective agreement on what percentage of people being affected by side effects and the severity of those impacts constitutes a significant enough group (1-2%? 3-5% etc.) to overrule/negate the overall social benefits of that policy that I have ever seen consistently applied. Seems it's always on a case by case basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Both can be true: 1. Crazy people were forced to take an experimental vaccine - that's hurt a lot of people 2. Don't blame others for your your own struggles in the sport/life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Mandates are bullshit, and the lawsuit includes anticipated health costs. Certainly the lost revenue is debatable but there should be accountability in general. I’d be interested if he attempted an exemption or tested refusing and how that translated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, SkokieSox said: Mandates are bullshit, and the lawsuit includes anticipated health costs. Certainly the lost revenue is debatable but there should be accountability in general. I’d be interested if he attempted an exemption or tested refusing and how that translated. Without mandates, the cost of the insurance pool for those over 60 and with pre-existing conditions just becomes prohibitively expensive. So everyone under forty without health insurance through an employer should rely on GoFundMe when they experience unforeseen medical emergencies? Social security and Medicare are two of the most popular government programs and both are mandates. Heck, wearing seat belts or three strikes and you're out out for OWI are also mandates. So, basically you believe in everyone for themselves instead of the greatest good for the greatest number of people possible? Why do all those countries with higher tax rates, less gun deaths, universal single payer health insurance, superior public education systems, better leave policies and worker protections like Sweden Finland Norway Iceland have much happier middle class populations? In China, women get four or even five months (if over thirty or recovering from a difficult pregnancy) off paid leave when they have a baby and basically all the costs are paid for/subsidized if you're a legally married couple. US couples usually get 2-3 weeks, yes? And men have to fight still for any leave days. Edited March 9 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 16 hours ago, nrockway said: you mean fewer doctors and chemists and more guys who hosted reality tv shows about eating bugs? He's also the biggest podcaster and an MMA announcer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 This guy is full of s%*#. A 12th round pick that was injured for most of 2019 (you know before Covid) and was awful when he did pitch, continued to be awful after receiving a vaccine that 99.99% of young people tolerate just fine and now 6 years later is claiming up to 20 million in lost wages? Bro was never making it above AA, he stunk and was already injury prone before Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 4 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Without mandates, the cost of the insurance pool for those over 60 and with pre-existing conditions just becomes prohibitively expensive. So everyone under forty without health insurance through an employer should rely on GoFundMe when they experience unforeseen medical emergencies? Social security and Medicare are two of the most popular government programs and both are mandates. Heck, wearing seat belts or three strikes and you're out out for OWI are also mandates. So, basically you believe in everyone for themselves instead of the greatest good for the greatest number of people possible? Why do all those countries with higher tax rates, less gun deaths, universal single payer health insurance, superior public education systems, better leave policies and worker protections like Sweden Finland Norway Iceland have much happier middle class populations? In China, women get four or even five months (if over thirty or recovering from a difficult pregnancy) off paid leave when they have a baby and basically all the costs are paid for/subsidized if you're a legally married couple. US couples usually get 2-3 weeks, yes? And men have to fight still for any leave days. Seatbelt laws regulate behavior, not medical procedures. Vaccine mandates involve injecting something into someone’s body, which raises a different level of ethical and legal concern. Supporting vaccines or social safety nets doesn’t automatically mean supporting government-mandated medical interventions. Plenty of countries with universal healthcare rely on voluntary vaccination rather than coercion. Public health works best when trust is maintained, not when compliance is forced. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Ron sure knows how to stir the pot here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, ron883 said: He's also the biggest podcaster and an MMA announcer. Maybe he should stick to podcasting and announcing. Or is that not a thing anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, SkokieSox said: Seatbelt laws regulate behavior, not medical procedures. Vaccine mandates involve injecting something into someone’s body, which raises a different level of ethical and legal concern. Supporting vaccines or social safety nets doesn’t automatically mean supporting government-mandated medical interventions. Plenty of countries with universal healthcare rely on voluntary vaccination rather than coercion. Public health works best when trust is maintained, not when compliance is forced. So if you had/have children in a public school...or private for that matter, you're against teachers and fellow students being tested for MMR, too? Because last I checked, every teacher has to pass this test to enter a classroom. https://bookabloodtest.com/products/occupational-health-mmr-testhttps://bookabloodtest.com/products/occupational-health-mmr-test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, SkokieSox said: Seatbelt laws regulate behavior, not medical procedures. Vaccine mandates involve injecting something into someone’s body, which raises a different level of ethical and legal concern. Supporting vaccines or social safety nets doesn’t automatically mean supporting government-mandated medical interventions. Plenty of countries with universal healthcare rely on voluntary vaccination rather than coercion. Public health works best when trust is maintained, not when compliance is forced. Nice Copy/Paste. I wish we had the same sorts of hands off of my body approach to women's health care, but then the same people go back to pretending to be "pro-life". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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