Yesterday at 03:30 PM1 day 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:"Ridiculous non sequitor (sic)"?You mean, like, quoting you? When TLR told players to slow it down, this board and other sites who exist only for clicks and likes demanded 110% from their players. Robert, in turn, ADMITTED he made the decision, right there in your article. We've all seen the video of the manager coming out to pull Mike Mussina, and Mussina yells at him to get his ass back in the dugout. What does the team do next? Call the police and have him arrested for trespassing?Robert demanded to bat. He said so right there in your article. Reluctantly, the Sox didn't call the police and have him restrained. My recollection was that he had both hands on the bat, and like Vilehoopster accurately relays, let go with one hand on the follow-through. He wasn't pulling a Pete Gray, for heaven's sake. As we've already established and agree upon, Merkin engaged in hyperbole for likes and clicks.So the inmates are running the asylum, and there is nothing the team can do about it. That's a wild defense.
23 hours ago23 hr 8 hours ago, caulfield12 said:We also heard for years we needed to trade Burger when he was just 26/27 and yet got nothing back in return for him that wasn't on Getz's 2022-23 Jake Eder top prospects scouting report."Heard for years", from people like yourself who try to ruin any good will by shoehorning talk of trading a player having a breakthrough into every single string? Getz had nothing to do with trading Burger. Maybe if Burger was on the 2024 team, they don't set the loss record. Yet another feather in KW's hat. Congrats.
23 hours ago23 hr 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:So the inmates are running the asylum, and there is nothing the team can do about it. That's a wild defense."inmates". So pro athletes are actually insane prisoners? Hyperbole, indeed. Welcome to the world of 21st century sports. Maybe comment boards should use their oversized, immense power to tell the truth and not engage in conspiracy theories at every turn.
23 hours ago23 hr 8 minutes ago, WestEddy said:"inmates". So pro athletes are actually insane prisoners? Hyperbole, indeed.Welcome to the world of 21st century sports. Maybe comment boards should use their oversized, immense power to tell the truth and not engage in conspiracy theories at every turn.Wow, are you really that desperate to try to change the truth of what actually happened? You have lost your mind.It literally happened, and here you are making stuff up to try to pretend it didn't. It's documented by multiple sources, the videos are there for all to see, and somehow this turned into, well whatever this is. 1984 is real y'all.
23 hours ago23 hr 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:Wow, are you really that desperate to try to change the truth of what actually happened? You have lost your mind.It literally happened, and here you are making stuff up to try to pretend it didn't. It's documented by multiple sources, the videos are there for all to see, and somehow this turned into, well whatever this is.1984 is real y'all.You literally posted an article that serves as a confession by Robert that he strong-armed the team into letting him play. Maybe he didn't hold a gun to their heads, but he certainly had a bat. You're claiming he went to the plate, basically with one arm in a sling, and pulled a Pete Gray, swinging, only using one hand, for an entire season, which is ludicrous. That didn't happen. Was it after the season that a one-armed Luis Robert was being marched to his at-bats at bayonet point that Chris Getz was supposed to get a boat-load of prospects in trade for their patient/prisoner? Maybe other teams read this blog to find all the "reporting" of how Robert was really just being tortured by having to play baseball from his death bed, and decided they wanted no part of that, real or not.It's weird that in a string where we should be celebrating finally getting a guy in a Sox uniform that you people have literally been screaming for a decade to obtain, it's turned into yet another diatribe on one of three players who could never stay healthy. You finally have Randal Grichuk on the White Sox. Your Holy Grail. Enjoy the moment. Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by WestEddy
23 hours ago23 hr 15 minutes ago, WestEddy said:It's weird that in a string where we should be celebrating finally getting a guy in a Sox uniform that you people have literally been screaming for a decade to obtain, it's turned into yet another diatribe on one of three players who could never stay healthy. You finally have Randal Grichuk on the White Sox. Your Holy Grail. Enjoy the moment.Are you Kenny Williams with this sort of rationale on acquiring players when they are basically one foot into retirement? I hope this is sarcasm. Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by WhiteSox2023
22 hours ago22 hr 1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said:Are you Kenny Williams with this sort of rationale on acquiring players when they are basically one foot into retirement?No, I'm me. This is who teams pick up to be a 5th or 6th OF. Nobody trades for the 22-year-old #1 prospect in the game to park him on the bench and be a defensive replacement. Nobody has their top RF prospect skip a level so he can pinch hit for a platoon advantage in the 9th inning. Prospects get developed and promoted when they're deemed ready. Older dudes trying to hang on bounce from team to team, catching on as a defensive replacement.
22 hours ago22 hr 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said:No, I'm me. This is who teams pick up to be a 5th or 6th OF. Nobody trades for the 22-year-old #1 prospect in the game to park him on the bench and be a defensive replacement. Nobody has their top RF prospect skip a level so he can pinch hit for a platoon advantage in the 9th inning. Prospects get developed and promoted when they're deemed ready. Older dudes trying to hang on bounce from team to team, catching on as a defensive replacement.Yeah, I agree. I’m also fine with Kelenic getting a shot first. I just didn’t think any Sox fans were clamoring to sign 34 year old Grichuk.
22 hours ago22 hr 20 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:Yeah, I agree. I’m also fine with Kelenic getting a shot first. I just didn’t think any Sox fans were clamoring to sign 34 year old Grichuk.He's a regular denizen of the off-season Sox plans over at SoxMachine.
21 hours ago21 hr 2 hours ago, WestEddy said:"Ridiculous non sequitor (sic)"?You mean, like, quoting you? When TLR told players to slow it down, this board and other sites who exist only for clicks and likes demanded 110% from their players. Robert, in turn, ADMITTED he made the decision, right there in your article. We've all seen the video of the manager coming out to pull Mike Mussina, and Mussina yells at him to get his ass back in the dugout. What does the team do next? Call the police and have him arrested for trespassing?Robert demanded to bat. He said so right there in your article. Reluctantly, the Sox didn't call the police and have him restrained. My recollection was that he had both hands on the bat, and like Vilehoopster accurately relays, let go with one hand on the follow-through. He wasn't pulling a Pete Gray, for heaven's sake. As we've already established and agree upon, Merkin engaged in hyperbole for likes and clicks.On no planet should Robert have been allowed to keep playing at the end of that season. Even if he asked to play, the appropriate individuals should have shut him down. Technically one-armed swinging or not, it was obvious he couldn’t be effective.
21 hours ago21 hr 1 hour ago, WestEddy said:You literally posted an article that serves as a confession by Robert that he strong-armed the team into letting him play. Maybe he didn't hold a gun to their heads, but he certainly had a bat. You're claiming he went to the plate, basically with one arm in a sling, and pulled a Pete Gray, swinging, only using one hand, for an entire season, which is ludicrous. That didn't happen. Was it after the season that a one-armed Luis Robert was being marched to his at-bats at bayonet point that Chris Getz was supposed to get a boat-load of prospects in trade for their patient/prisoner? Maybe other teams read this blog to find all the "reporting" of how Robert was really just being tortured by having to play baseball from his death bed, and decided they wanted no part of that, real or not.It's weird that in a string where we should be celebrating finally getting a guy in a Sox uniform that you people have literally been screaming for a decade to obtain, it's turned into yet another diatribe on one of three players who could never stay healthy. You finally have Randal Grichuk on the White Sox. Your Holy Grail. Enjoy the moment.It's wild that you would rather say that Luis Robert threatened someone with a bat, versus that the Sox management let him play while injured. This is just insane. The effort to spin this into the player literally threatening someone is just beyond comprehension.
21 hours ago21 hr 15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:It's wild that you would rather say that Luis Robert threatened someone with a bat, versus that the Sox management let him play while injured. This is just insane. The effort to spin this into the player literally threatening someone is just beyond comprehension."wild"
21 hours ago21 hr 24 minutes ago, fathom said:On no planet should Robert have been allowed to keep playing at the end of that season. Even if he asked to play, the appropriate individuals should have shut him down. Technically one-armed swinging or not, it was obvious he couldn’t be effective.Well, comment boards like this one were holding the front office's feet to the fire to trade Robert as soon as possible, and they demanded he play to increase his value. I think both Robert and the front office were victims in this scenario.
21 hours ago21 hr Charlie Montoyo was so threatened by Robert (who didn't even know who he was, namely the bench coach) that they had to put his name in the lineup...despite his reputation for not wanting to play when dinged up?That would make sense in alternative Lemming World 2024.Well, this one was actually on LaRussa, KW and Hahn moreso than Getz.Who was the head athletic trainer that end of 2022 year who was so scared/frightened/intimidated by mild-mannered Luis they simply couldn't resist?
21 hours ago21 hr 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said:Well, comment boards like this one were holding the front office's feet to the fire to trade Robert as soon as possible, and they demanded he play to increase his value. I think both Robert and the front office were victims in this scenario.So this front office not only was threatened by Luis Robert to put him back into the line up, they are also afraid of Soxtalk. And you think that is better than the alternative?
21 hours ago21 hr 6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:Well, comment boards like this one were holding the front office's feet to the fire to trade Robert as soon as possible, and they demanded he play to increase his value. I think both Robert and the front office were victims in this scenario.He hadn't had his breakthrough 2023 season yet...at that point.Just his RoY chase in 2020 that faded to second behind the unforgettable injury-prone Kyle Lewis.
21 hours ago21 hr https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=979848003877755&id=5544658397493092021 was the Robert hip flexor strain year...or was that the adductor?Hard to keep track.Since Aug. 25, 2022, Robert was 1-for-28 with nine strikeouts and he was often seen swinging one-handed due to the discomfort. Robert said the hit-by-pitch didn’t really affect him adversely, but admitted bad habits were developing as he tried to swing through the pain.“That kind of backfired on what I was trying to do. Again, I think that was my mistake. It’s something I learned from,” Robert said. “I’m very confident, as soon as that discomfort goes away, I’m going to be able to swing the bat the way that I do without the bad habits. The thing that developed the bad habits was in my mind.“I think it was the best decision that we could make, especially after you saw how I tried to help the team during those games,” Robert told reporters on Wednesday through interpreter Billy Russo. “I tried and the team realized that even with my best effort, it wasn’t enough to help them in a good way.......“Yes, I asked them to let me try to play, but I also think it was my mistake because I didn’t realize at that moment that trying to do that, I wasn’t helping them. I wanted to play because the team was in a very good position. We were making a push to make the playoffs and I wanted to be part of that and help the team. Unfortunately, I couldn’t do it.Already had the left hand injury, which was exacerbated by a Logan Gilbert hbphttps://www.mlb.com/news/luis-robert-left-hand-injury-white-sox-2022-season Edited 20 hours ago20 hr by caulfield12
19 hours ago19 hr 1 hour ago, fathom said:On no planet should Robert have been allowed to keep playing at the end of that season. Even if he asked to play, the appropriate individuals should have shut him down. Technically one-armed swinging or not, it was obvious he couldn’t be effective.Look at your last sentence, by that logic he never should be playing. Just like he’s not playing now for the Mets . . . . another injury keeping him from being effective. He learned from Moncada that a back injury is an excuse that lasts all year. 1 hour ago, fathom said:On no planet should Robert have been allowed to keep playing at the end of that season. Even if he asked to play, the appropriate individuals should have shut him down. Technically one-armed swinging or not, it was obvious he couldn’t be effective.
17 hours ago17 hr 2 hours ago, vilehoopster said:Look at your last sentence, by that logic he never should be playing. Just like he’s not playing now for the Mets . . . . another injury keeping him from being effective.He learned from Moncada that a back injury is an excuse that lasts all year.White Sox wanted nothing to do with playing Moncada while the final year of his contract expired with a $29 million pricetag including the buyout.JR somehow thought that was punishing him.Angels still gave him a shot. Twice now.Might be why they're the worst team in baseball right now.
11 hours ago11 hr On 5/4/2026 at 4:00 PM, Sleepy Harold said:Quintessential journeyman. Has been with 8 major league teams. 34 yrs old. Good stat is that he has 212 career home runs. Hope he still has some HRs in the tank.
4 hours ago4 hr 19 hours ago, WestEddy said:"Heard for years", from people like yourself who try to ruin any good will by shoehorning talk of trading a player having a breakthrough into every single string?Getz had nothing to do with trading Burger. Maybe if Burger was on the 2024 team, they don't set the loss record. Yet another feather in KW's hat. Congrats.Glad that I have so much power and influence.What next, I should initiate Crowdfunding/GFM campaigns since JR will never personally shell out the money required for extensions to our young core players?
2 hours ago2 hr 19 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:It's wild that you would rather say that Luis Robert threatened someone with a bat, versus that the Sox management let him play while injured. This is just insane. The effort to spin this into the player literally threatening someone is just beyond comprehension.Isn't one role of the team and doctors to protect a player from himself? Their job is to be the rational arbiter between a player and his competitiveness, especially if he is putting himself at risk or hurting the team with their injury.
2 hours ago2 hr 18 hours ago, WestEddy said:Well, comment boards like this one were holding the front office's feet to the fire to trade Robert as soon as possible, and they demanded he play to increase his value. I think both Robert and the front office were victims in this scenario.This is now the 3rd time you or Cali have insinuated that posts on the internet are driving decision making or changing outcomes of a major league team.Now theyre victims of it. I can only hope youre being facetious. Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Look at Ray Ray Run
2 hours ago2 hr "But regardless of where he finishes, undoubtedly, the White Sox will be building their future around Robert.They knew this, of course, when they signed him to a big-money contract extension before he’d played a single major league game.They didn’t know he’d be one of the only players the White Sox based their future on to actually live up to the hype. While injuries and underperformance have prevented the expected successes of Jiménez, Yoán Moncada and, to a lesser degree, Tim Anderson to this point in their careers, Robert, finally blessed with health this season, has become that otherworldly talent.“I honestly think he’s very underrated, and it’s really not fair to him. I think he’s one of the best in the game,” Touki Toussaint said. “He needs to be on that list of all those other guys.”This is, of course, what the White Sox are paying Robert to do.Robert was billed as a six-tool player on his way to the big leagues. No one ever said the sixth tool was leadership."
2 hours ago2 hr 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:This is now the 3rd time you or Cali have insinuated that posts on the internet are driving decision making or changing outcomes of a major league team.Now theyre victims of it. I can only hope youre being facetious.In other words, Getz is excused of trading Robert for a backup utility scrub that makes Leury Garcia look like a perennial All-Star. And it’s all the fault of Sox fans! Sox fans got into Getz’s head so bad on the Robert trade that he couldn’t even remember that Acuna wasn’t a switch hitter.That had better be sarcasm. Otherwise, it’s just a massive pile of bull 💩. Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by WhiteSox2023
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