They are still too far away on the pitching side. If Schultz came up and just took the league by storm, that would have changed the equation, but they just don't have the arms.

Getz has a tricky rope to walk (assuming they are still playing competitive ball around the deadline) but I would not move assets for a one year rental. If there is a player available to bring into the "core", and it happens to be at the deadline, so be it.

2 hours ago, bmags said:

I don't think there is any doubt you trade for Skubal and go all-in on this team.

I've said for years while this board was saying 'Getz is a nightmare he can't ever add' I said 'in 2026 we will be a few games over five hundred and Getz is going to add' and now here we are and the same people are saying 'oh we should sell'? That ta-reeks of hypocrisy

Unless you are giving up multiple Top 5, plus additional Top 10 guys, I don't think it happens. Say something like Bonemer, Hagen and Fauske, and a tailend filler piece.

2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Don't like that idea either . Why give up minor league depth for someone who will be here at the longest 4 months (July through Oct , early trade and playoff run but likely just 2+ months ,August to the rest of the regular season or an early playoff exit). Unless you're giving up the excess 40 man ( Hays, Pereira, Hill, Acuna, Grichuk, Romo, Nishida, Benintendi, Fedde, Tyler Davis, Tyler Gilbert, Trevor Richards, Brandon Eisert, Jordan Hicks ) or extra relief pitchers types (Pallette, Schoenele, Peoples ) not on the 40.

Sox actually have 48 on the 40 man roster but because 8 are on the 60 day DL they don't count but they can be traded. (Thorpe, Bush , Vasil, Leasure, Berroa, Baldwin, Teel, Tanner Murray). Or you could trade some triple A guys on the 40 like SP Joe Rock, Shane Smith, Chris Murphy , Tyler Schweitzer, Jonathan Cannon, Junior Perez, Wikelman Gonzalez. I don't know all the ins and out of trading injured minor leaguers since there are guys like Alexander Albertus who the Sox got from the Dodgers but was injured a long time after being acquired.

I just named 32 guys (not counting Albertus). By August 1st I'm guessing at least 5 of them are no longer on the White Sox. Some of them like Teel or Shane Smith might be safe but others I didn't mention like Sandlin and Davitt may not be. But most are the guys who you could possibly move among those deemed near MLB ready and MLB players.

Because this positional group is legit and you need to augment it some with a few pitching additions. Build some momentum and try to sneak your way into the playoffs. The goodwill from doing so will pay off immensely come this offseason. There is certainly a way to buy without crippling your long term plans.

1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Kelenic, Lamont Wade, Jr. and Oliver Dunn are already gone and anyone else from the AAA roster beside top pitching prospects (maybe) could be moved also as could plenty of names from below AAA . Makes more sense to say all but perhaps 15 guys in the minors could be traded. Which 15 I could only guess at.

Not sure who the biggest name on your list would be , maybe Gabe Davis or Boston Smith atm.

There are very few guys at AAA with much value. Regardless, the nine guys I picked all should have some value, you aren’t selling low on them (assuming Bergolla is healthy), and aren’t critical for our near-term future. Adams is the one possible exception, but given the 40 man congestion he might be a guy the Sox look to sell.

As for who is the best of the guys mentioned, I think Davis is probably the most valuable chip given his ceiling. Bergolla is a top 10 guy by many publications, but he’s much more floor than upside. Shelton had some real helium after his torrid start in W-S, but his AA debut so far has probably cooled things down a bit. To me, those are probably the three guys I expect to have the most trade value come the deadline, but a lot could change between now and then.

I wonder if Montgomery will platoon and face mostly RHP and Grichuk against LHP. That would be a pretty lethal combination assuming Montgomery takes to the big leagues.

Edited Tuesday at 05:55 PM3 days by Falstaff

I really hope the Tigers hold onto Skubal and get nothing for him. Certainly don't need them loading up with young players. They already have several coming soon.

And the Sox trading for him would be ridiculous. It would cost Bonemer; I'm not totally adverse to trading him, but for fair value, which would 3 pitchers (1 major leaguer; 2 good prospects), not one (trade, not a buy). Still Skubal absolutely is an ace, versus faux aces like Alcantra or Webb.
Don't be like Hahn or late-era Williams.

12 hours ago, Falstaff said:

I wonder if Montgomery will platoon and face mostly RHP and Grichuk against LHP. That would be a pretty lethal combination assuming Montgomery takes to the big leagues.

I hope Beni sits against lefties with both Grich and Braden in on most days.

49 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

I really hope the Tigers hold onto Skubal and get nothing for him. Certainly don't need them loading up with young players. They already have several coming soon.

And the Sox trading for him would be ridiculous. It would cost Bonemer; I'm not totally adverse to trading him, but for fair value, which would 3 pitchers (1 major leaguer; 2 good prospects), not one (trade, not a buy). Still Skubal absolutely is an ace, versus faux aces like Alcantra or Webb.
Don't be like Hahn or late-era Williams.

I want to find the 2026 version of Freddy Garcia at the deadline and in the offseason the 2027 version of Contreras. 😆

Just thinking what is possible without any trades and just call ups and successful rehabbing:

Noah Schultz, Shane Smith, Hagen Smith, Mune, Kyle Teel, Braden Montgomery, Everson Pereria.

11 minutes ago, Falstaff said:

Just thinking what is possible without any trades and just call ups and successful rehabbing:

Noah Schultz, Shane Smith, Hagen Smith, Mune, Kyle Teel, Braden Montgomery, Everson Pereria.

McDougal/Adams/Bush/Berroa/Thorpe might be too far away

4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

McDougal/Adams/Bush/Berroa/Thorpe might be too far away

Adams is in AAA now…he’s as close as can be baring innings ramp-up

Edited Wednesday at 12:46 PM3 days by Chicago White Sox

13 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

McDougal/Adams/Bush/Berroa/Thorpe might be too far away

Excellent, the more pitching help the better.

The team needs pitching no matter what, so I think they should be buying pitching. They have a good surplus of position players and prospects that they should be able to trade from.

Right now, they really only have two starters (Martin/Burke). They badly need starting pitching. I would buy pitching 100%.

Looking at the run differential for the season currently at 316-307. The first 2 series were a disaster, besides going 1-5 the Sox were outscored 52-21.

Since April 3rd the Sox are 34-26 with a much more respectable run differential of 295-255.

Cautiously buy: either rental that doesn't cost a lot or if you need to spend some prospects, get someone with at least 2 more years of control.

14 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The team needs pitching no matter what, so I think they should be buying pitching. They have a good surplus of position players and prospects that they should be able to trade from.

Right now, they really only have two starters (Martin/Burke). They badly need starting pitching. I would buy pitching 100%.

I would put Kay in the circle of trust as well, at least to a degree. But they need a solid #2 right now that they can insert between Martin and Burke. Detmers is definitely growing on me. His projected stats are actually quite good and he's been the victim of bad defense and bad luck. Also, Alcantara, if we could swing it. Although he might just be a pure rental.

1 minute ago, Colome's Hat said:

I would put Kay in the circle of trust as well, at least to a degree. But they need a solid #2 right now that they can insert between Martin and Burke. Detmers is definitely growing on me. His projected stats are actually quite good and he's been the victim of bad defense and bad luck. Also, Alcantara, if we could swing it. Although he might just be a pure rental.

Anthony Kay has a 5.5 FIP. Absolutely not in the circle of trust.

Edited Wednesday at 01:34 PM3 days by Look at Ray Ray Run

The following rotation could actually cause a lot of trouble in October:

Martin

Detmers

Burke

Kay

And down the stretch you add one of either Schultz, Smith or Hagen Smith to it.

3 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:

I would put Kay in the circle of trust as well, at least to a degree. But they need a solid #2 right now that they can insert between Martin and Burke. Detmers is definitely growing on me. His projected stats are actually quite good and he's been the victim of bad defense and bad luck. Also, Alcantara, if we could swing it. Although he might just be a pure rental.

Idk about Kay. I would look to add a solid #2 like you said and then maybe like a solid back-end innings eater, who may be overpaid and could be looked to be dumped by a team? Are they any guys who fit the bill?

Maybe see if you can grab the dude on the Pirates who was bumped from the rotation?

2 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:

The following rotation could actually cause a lot of trouble in October:

Martin

Detmers

Burke

Kay

And down the stretch you add one of either Schultz, Smith or Hagen Smith to it.

Trouble for the White Sox.

Although I have always been a Detmers guy, no team will be sweating those probables. Ill also add that Detmers has always had better peripherals than actuals so I wouldnt bank too much on that being luck.

Edited Wednesday at 01:40 PM3 days by Look at Ray Ray Run

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Idk about Kay. I would look to add a solid #2 like you said and then maybe like a solid back-end innings eater, who may be overpaid and could be looked to be dumped by a team? Are they any guys who fit the bill?

Maybe see if you can grab the dude on the Pirates who was bumped from the rotation?

Maybe it's worth just paying the inter-divisional tax and getting Ryan. Twins will no doubt move him. Yeah you might have to give up more and maybe it could come back to bite you but as Wills always used to say, prospects are suspects until the prove otherwise.

Shane Smith, Hagen Smith, Tanner McDougal, and Noah Schultz are probably the upside plays for the Sox down the stretch. I would be fine getting Detmers, but he’s not a #1 in all likelihood. The hope is one of the aforementioned guys steps up ala Schlittler and Yeasavage last year to give you a late season hammer. My money would be on McDougal if any of them. You could see some of those guys coming out of the pen in September as well.

1 hour ago, Timmy U said:

Shane Smith, Hagen Smith, Tanner McDougal, and Noah Schultz are probably the upside plays for the Sox down the stretch. I would be fine getting Detmers, but he’s not a #1 in all likelihood. The hope is one of the aforementioned guys steps up ala Schlittler and Yeasavage last year to give you a late season hammer. My money would be on McDougal if any of them. You could see some of those guys coming out of the pen in September as well.

Fully agree. And candidly, I think we should commit to developing two of the young arms (Schultz, Smith, & McDougal) this year no matter what. I don’t see the value in pushing that key development time into next year when the rest of the group should be in an even stronger position.

To me, the rotation should be:

1. Martin

2. Burke

3. S. Smith or trade addition

4. Schultz

5. H. Smith or McDougal

6. Kay (move to bullpen)

7. Sandlin/Adams/Thorpe

3 hours ago, Falstaff said:

Just thinking what is possible without any trades and just call ups and successful rehabbing:

Noah Schultz, Shane Smith, Hagen Smith, Mune, Kyle Teel, Braden Montgomery, Everson Pereria.

This is mostly how I feel. Getz may try to fleece the Angels or Colorado for something . They've done a lot with Boston and we haven't heard anything about the PTBNL from the Hicks/Sandlin trade so might see something with the Red Sox again.