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Eugenio Suarez put on waivers

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11 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:

I have to be honest, and I know Suarez isn't a like for like but I'd consider sending acuna down to make space for him. I don't know what acuna's value is right now beyond pinch running. And O'Doyle can do that. Would rather have a guy with power off the bench.

Acuna's value is that he is a legit MLB SS. Nobody else on the roster other than Colson is. They clearly don't want to play Meidroth there, and for good reason.

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    He sucks and we already have plenty of DH options for tough LHP. I'd rather pickup Robert and I don't really want Robert either.

4 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Acuna's value is that he is a legit MLB SS. Nobody else on the roster other than Colson is. They clearly don't want to play Meidroth there, and for good reason.

Not sure I understand this comment. They do play him at shortstop — Meidroth has played shortstop 16 times this season, and he has graded out fine if not slightly above average. I've thought he looks good there as well

40 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:

Not sure I understand this comment. They do play him at shortstop — Meidroth has played shortstop 16 times this season, and he has graded out fine if not slightly above average. I've thought he looks good there as well

42 innings, one start. They clearly don't want him there as the primary backup.

8 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

42 innings, one start. They clearly don't want him there as the primary backup.

I wouldn’t omit the context. As I understand it, it has more to do with their lack of outfield depth. They are limited there which causes Antonocci to play LF. Since he has to play there pretty much everyday, Chase is best suited to play most days at 2B. If Vargas played 2B, it would give them more flexibility.

2 minutes ago, nitetrain8601 said:

I wouldn’t omit the context. As I understand it, it has more to do with their lack of outfield depth. They are limited there which causes Antonocci to play LF. Since he has to play there pretty much everyday, Chase is best suited to play most days at 2B. If Vargas played 2B, it would give them more flexibility.

I mean the context is why Acuna is on the roster. If my aunt was my uncle she'd have balls. Vargas isn't a 2B. Chase isn't a starting SS.

Eugenio Suarez OPS while helping Venezuela win the WBC this year -- 1.247. You think this guy might like big moments?

Suarez has actually been awful against lefties this year. He wasn't good against them last year either.

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

You deal realize that one team "receives" the punt.

Sometimes they try to receive it but muff it and then realize they should have just let it bounce away

Poop

19 hours ago, Falstaff said:

Hmmmm, interesting with the possibilities of when the Sox face starting LHP.

Agree. We need more pop against lefties. Can’t be satisfied throwing in Acuna, Doyle, Rogers/Romo against lefties with Will’s split obsession.

Suarez is a likable guy, it looks like he will be staying in Cincy.

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13 hours ago, chw42 said:

Suarez has actually been awful against lefties this year. He wasn't good against them last year either.

That’s the biggest issue. Another RH bat could certainly help, but Saurez doesn’t inspire much hope right now as a lefty masher.

Also, our weakest hitters against LHP the last two months have been Murakami (68 wRC+) and Braden (55 wRC+). Both have been a bit unlucky with batted ball luck, but also aren’t rocking great ISO’s during stretch. Murakami had a 128 wRC+ against LHP through June, so there is zero reason to think he’s just a platoon guy at this point. Braden has struggled all year against LHP and while I don’t think he’s a platoon guy long term, I doubt he suddenly starts hitting them this year.

If Suarez could actually hit LHP, you could put him at DH and Grichuk in RF and then sit Braden. I’m just not convinced he can hit LHP at this point in his career. Luis Robert, if made available, would be a much preferable fit because he still can hit LHP and would provide improved OF defense as well.

No on Suarez or Robert Jr. , or messing with the team's composition at this point, other than the pitching staff.

15 minutes ago, tray said:

No on Suarez or Robert Jr. , or messing with the team's composition at this point, other than the pitching staff.

Definitely no on Suarez but I’ve always said that Robert seems like a vibes guy. When things are going well, he seems to play better. Nothing more than a 4th OF/platoon guy though when rosters expand. I’d rather use the extra bench spot on that in September than the other 4 options: 3rd catcher (blah), Nishida, Perez, other DFA/waiver claim/etc not yet in org.

18 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Acuna's value is that he is a legit MLB SS. Nobody else on the roster other than Colson is. They clearly don't want to play Meidroth there, and for good reason.

And he can play CF and SS; dump him and they'll spend $5 mill on a utility infielder next year.
The tradeoff would be Grichuk or Doyle. Switching Grichuk for him is obviously ridiculous. I'm still not sure why they traded for Doyle, but they had their reasons and I doubt they dump him this quickly to wishcast a Suarez return to form (such that it was).

5 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

And he can play CF and SS; dump him and they'll spend $5 mill on a utility infielder next year.
The tradeoff would be Grichuk or Doyle. Switching Grichuk for him is obviously ridiculous. I'm still not sure why they traded for Doyle, but they had their reasons and I doubt they dump him this quickly to wishcast a Suarez return to form (such that it was).

They've got Tanner Murray and possibly Baldwin (not sure they still view him as a guy who can see time in the infield or not) for next year as well.

I am fairly confident that Acuna played himself out of the outfield with how bad he was with cutoffs and being properly positioned while catching the ball.

I like Gino, just don’t think he’s a good fit. There’s probably guys who fit the roster better that were also put on waivers, and we just didn’t hear about it.

12 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I am fairly confident that Acuna played himself out of the outfield with how bad he was with cutoffs and being properly positioned while catching the ball.

Yeah, he can back up the infield with his glove and lack of bat. He has neither in the OF.

2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Yeah, he can back up the infield with his glove and lack of bat. He has neither in the OF.

Don't mind him as a backup, mind him being a staple in the lineup getting regular playing time against lefties. Should be mixed in less than that, especially when none of our infielders need a RHH platoon partner.

Edited by Bob Sacamano

5 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said:

I like Gino, just don’t think he’s a good fit. There’s probably guys who fit the roster better that were also put on waivers, and we just didn’t hear about it.

Yeah, if there was an equivilant pitcher (RP or SP at this point) I would be in. Catcher I could listen on. Everything else? Nah.

2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Don't mind him as a backup, mind him being a staple in the lineup getting regular playing time against lefties.

And to their credit, they finally killed that experiment.

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

And to their credit, they finally killed that experiment.

Worth noting his OPS is about 50 points higher against righties than lefties. And if you're going to start him, start him when your stronger lineup is in (RHP lineup over LHP lineup)

Edited by Bob Sacamano

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

Worth noting his OPS is about 100 points higher against righties than lefties. And if you're going to start him, start him when your stronger lineup is in (RHP lineup over LHP lineup)

And they do seem to be doing that, which has helped his numbers.

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