18 hours ago18 hr 2 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:Right on the mark.I think the twins were wrong to do what they did. We have been begging for a hitting coach like Shomon. We get one and we want to fire him. If I have to sit through the bullshit of 2022, where we ranked #1 in batting average and had multiple .300 hitters but no 20 home run hitters, I will lose my s%*#.
18 hours ago18 hr For people concerned about batting average: the Toronto Blue Jays were second in the AL in batting average. They also hit 162 home runs. We all know the end of that. White Sox were near the league average in batting average.
18 hours ago18 hr Seven qualifying batters hit over .300 this year. .316 was the batting title. It's just not how the game is played anymore.
18 hours ago18 hr 1 minute ago, almagest said:Seven qualifying batters hit over .300 this year. .316 was the batting title. It's just not how the game is played anymore.People need to watch the Joey Votto clip explaining why. Furthermore, a .300 average without slug or OBP is worthless.
18 hours ago18 hr While they K a lot, they also take a lot of walks. Seems that it wouldn't me insurmountable to shift some of the thinking of the current roster to more contact instead of swinging for the fences.Colson absolutely must do that, or he'll end up as an infielder Palka. This sub .300 obp stuff is ridiculous
17 hours ago17 hr 12 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:People need to watch the Joey Votto clip explaining why. Furthermore, a .300 average without slug or OBP is worthless.The top three teams in batting average this season:MilwaukeeTampa BayLos AngelesRISP? Milwaukee #1. LAD #3. TBR #4.Tampa struck out the least number of times. LA 4th least. This is likely the world series matchup...Getting hits and not striking out is still really important. I am also not sure why walking and getting hits are mutually exclusive things, either. Not every swing needs to be for the fences. The White Sox approach sucks.
17 hours ago17 hr 7 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:The top three teams in batting average this season:MilwaukeeTampa BayLos AngelesRISP? Milwaukee #1. LAD #3. TBR #4.Tampa struck out the least number of times. LA 4th least. This is likely the world series matchup...Getting hits and not striking out is still really important. I am also not sure why walking and getting hits are mutually exclusive things, either. Not every swing needs to be for the fences. The White Sox approach sucks.You also have those four teams in the Top 8 in ERA...along with Yankees Red Sox Braves etc.Also, Tigers in terms of their pitching and RS/RA should have been the playoff team from the Central.
17 hours ago17 hr 19 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:The top three teams in batting average this season:MilwaukeeTampa BayLos AngelesRISP? Milwaukee #1. LAD #3. TBR #4.Tampa struck out the least number of times. LA 4th least. This is likely the world series matchup...Getting hits and not striking out is still really important. I am also not sure why walking and getting hits are mutually exclusive things, either. Not every swing needs to be for the fences. The White Sox approach sucks.Tampa bay's team is literally built for its ballpark. Just like ours. I want to see us be better with RISP but the approach is good. It needs tweaking. A strikeout is another out. And it's less destructive than a ground ball out. People need to accept that it isn't 2005 anymore. Edited 17 hours ago17 hr by Colome's Hat
17 hours ago17 hr can we get Adam Dunn to mentor Colson? To me that is who his North Star should be. Dunn was brilliant, in part, because of how patient he was at the plate. His injury in late 2012 deprived us of a potential 50 home run season.
17 hours ago17 hr 4 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:Tampa bay's team is literally built for its ballpark. Just like ours. I want to see us be better with RISP but the approach is good. It needs tweaking. A strikeout is another out. And it's less destructive than a ground ball out. People need to accept that it isn't 2005 anymore.Setting the MLB record for strikeouts in a game, twice, says otherwise. That doesn't happen if the "approach is good". Especially against Cleveland's pitchers.
17 hours ago17 hr 5 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:Setting the MLB record for strikeouts in a game, twice, says otherwise. That doesn't happen if the "approach is good". Especially against Cleveland's pitchers.It could also be a team pressing because they, for the first time, realize the magnitude of the situation. Those games are outliers
17 hours ago17 hr 1 minute ago, Colome's Hat said:It could also be a team pressing because they, for the first time, realize the magnitude of the situation. Those games are outliersThat's what coaches are for!Also, in the last two months the White Sox have played 44 games. They struck out 416 times. This trend isn't just the last three games. It's been a problem for a while. Edited 17 hours ago17 hr by Paulie4Pres
16 hours ago16 hr Author 26 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:That's what coaches are for!Also, in the last two months the White Sox have played 44 games. They struck out 416 times. This trend isn't just the last three games. It's been a problem for a while.Teams figured some things out and the white sox did not adjust, that's my issue. Failed miserably
16 hours ago16 hr 42 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:Tampa bay's team is literally built for its ballpark. Just like ours. I want to see us be better with RISP but the approach is good. It needs tweaking. A strikeout is another out. And it's less destructive than a ground ball out. People need to accept that it isn't 2005 anymore.A ground ball doesn’t always lead to an out or DP. They can find holes.
16 hours ago16 hr anyone hear Venable during the game say something like, not much coaching went on between game 4 and 5, these guys know what they gotta doEl oh el
16 hours ago16 hr 28 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:A ground ball doesn’t always lead to an out or DP. They can find holes.I understand the argument that a strike out is better than a ground out in double play situations.But what about leading off an inning, every situation that there are two outs, man on 3rd with less than 2 outs, 2nd and 3rd with less than two outs?You cannot make a blanket statement that a strike out is always less destructive than a ground out. I would have preferred that Mune hit the ball with the bases loaded....sometimes even pop ups are dropped....anyone remember Gordon Beckham??
16 hours ago16 hr 2 minutes ago, joejoesox said:anyone hear Venable during the game say something like, not much coaching went on between game 4 and 5, these guys know what they gotta doEl oh elProbably because they are doing what Fuller and Shomon preach. Good pitching will exploit their hyper aggressive philosophy.
16 hours ago16 hr 5 minutes ago, wegner said:I understand the argument that a strike out is better than a ground out in double play situations.But what about leading off an inning, every situation that there are two outs, man on 3rd with less than 2 outs, 2nd and 3rd with less than two outs?You cannot make a blanket statement that a strike out is always less destructive than a ground out. I would have preferred that Mune hit the ball with the bases loaded....sometimes even pop ups are dropped....anyone remember Gordon Beckham??There's basically only one situation where a strikeout is preferable to a ground out. A slow runner at first and a slow runner up to bat. Lol. Even in that situation, they still have to turn the double play.
9 hours ago9 hr The 2026 Whiff Sox. How disappointing.Back in high school our coaches taught rudimentary skills to avoid striking out - Taking the first pitch to see if you can get ahead in the count, choking up on the bat, keeping your head down and eyes on the ball. trying to hit the ball up the middle or to the opposite field, or bunting when asked. Pete Rose would laugh at a team that struck out 21 of 27 outs in a game. He had his flaws but he sure knew how to hit the ball. He used to get all coiled up like a snake with his head turned to the pitcher and eyes looking for the ball. There have been other great hitters but I can't think of one that was a free swinger - just seemingly taking a hard cut without trying to look the pitch into the bat.
9 hours ago9 hr 13 minutes ago, tray said:The 2026 Whiff Sox. How disappointing.Back in high school our coaches taught rudimentary skills to avoid striking out - Taking the first pitch to see if you can get ahead in the count, choking up on the bat, keeping your head down and eyes on the ball. trying to hit the ball up the middle or to the opposite field, or bunting when asked. Pete Rose would laugh at a team that struck out 21 of 27 outs in a game. He had his flaws but he sure knew how to hit the ball. He used to get all coiled up like a snake with his head turned to the pitcher and eyes looking for the ball. There have been other great hitters but I can't think of one that was a free swinger - just seemingly taking a hard cut without trying to look the pitch into the bat.Vladimir Guerrero, Sr./Roberto Clemente
3 hours ago3 hr 4 hours ago, soulfly said:Don't tell me what you hit, tell me when you hit it. Ah Hawk...A limited point I think. Yes, they cratered during the Cleveland series. But it’s only 1 series. They took it to 5 games without starting pitchers. They’re young, gonna make changes and improve the talent. The “ approach” can be tweaked with better talent.
2 hours ago2 hr 13 hours ago, joejoesox said:anyone hear Venable during the game say something like, not much coaching went on between game 4 and 5, these guys know what they gotta doEl oh elI wonder if they thought the same way for the pathetic second half of Kolson.
2 hours ago2 hr 7 hours ago, tray said:The 2026 Whiff Sox. How disappointing.Back in high school our coaches taught rudimentary skills to avoid striking out - Taking the first pitch to see if you can get ahead in the count, choking up on the bat, keeping your head down and eyes on the ball. trying to hit the ball up the middle or to the opposite field, or bunting when asked. Pete Rose would laugh at a team that struck out 21 of 27 outs in a game. He had his flaws but he sure knew how to hit the ball. He used to get all coiled up like a snake with his head turned to the pitcher and eyes looking for the ball. There have been other great hitters but I can't think of one that was a free swinger - just seemingly taking a hard cut without trying to look the pitch into the bat.The Sox probably guessed right how to get the most out of this lineup. It’s readily apparent. There’s a cost to everything
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