CSF Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Sox are offering 2 yrs $4 million, Iguchi wants 2 yrs $4.6 million. This according to the Score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 To the Sox: Nitpickers! Give AJ and Iguchi what they ask for and move on. An extra 1.6 mill over 2 years won't kill you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) To the Sox: Nitpickers! Give AJ and Iguchi what they ask for and move on. An extra 1.6 mill over 2 years won't kill you. I'm having recurring flashbacks of 2003 .... We offered Kenny Rogers one million, the Twins offered him two million. That was difference folks. In a nutshell, we lost the 2003 AL Central division championship over a million bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I think I would go crazy if we lose both of these guys over this amount of money.... I'm just praying that both of these guys don't have any other serious interest from other teams and KW is just trying to get the best deal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 To not offer Iguchi the extra 300k per year is rediculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(ChiSoxFan @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 11:12 AM) Sox are offering 2 yrs $4 million, Iguchi wants 2 yrs $4.6 million. This according to the Score. If they are only 300,000 per year apart, this deal will get done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 05:21 PM) I'm having recurring flashbacks of 2003 .... We offered Kenny Rogers one million, the Twins offered him two million. That was difference folks. In a nutshell, we lost the 2003 AL Central division championship over a million bucks. That is why KW needs to forget Iguchi and just sign AJ. Offer A.J. 3 million and then shoot for Cora, he'll come cheaper than Iguchi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babybearhater Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 And then who do we replace him with? Borchard? Let's not forget, he is 33 and has the ability to be up very good major league numbers and is a servicable outfielder. If Thomas is not back until June who is the DH Gload? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can replace him with a box of balls, and another massage table for all I care. We are paying him, in theory to fill in for awhile for Frank, thats it. He is not starting, and in fact probably wont play much outfield at all. You can DH konerko, start Gload at first, and I will just as happy seeing Gload get base hits, than watch Carla strike out on his emergency swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 11:33 AM) That is why KW needs to forget Iguchi and just sign AJ. Offer A.J. 3 million and then shoot for Cora, he'll come cheaper than Iguchi. Cora is a slow Willie Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) To the Sox: Nitpickers! Give AJ and Iguchi what they ask for and move on. An extra 1.6 mill over 2 years won't kill you. Remember JR is losing $$$ in a billboard advertisement that used to be in LF so that they can build their Romper Room . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(CubKilla @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 11:35 AM) Remember JR is losing $$$ in a billboard advertisement that used to be in LF so that they can build their Romper Room . Henry... so nice to see you around these parts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 11:29 AM) If they are only 300,000 per year apart, this deal will get done. Which may be correct, but I don't appreciate these negotiating tactics. Williams is acting as if we're the only suitors bidding for Iguchi. Publically, we are, but I'm bracing myself for another mystery club stealing Iguchi from our grasp. Our interest sure is a noticeable shift from Williams self appointed "flying under the radar" position. Personally, I find it's ridiculous to observe Mets and Boras debating millions/years, while White Sox are fretting over $600,000. I don't wish to be educated on the nuances of negotiations; just pay the amount to improve our ballclub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raff Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 lets not forget we have at least 7 million left, im all for negotiating, but kw better get them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raff Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 back to the topic. we need AJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 02:24 PM) jim, I still think things will get worked out. If there were teams lining up for these guys I can say spend the extra million. Nobody is lining up or maybe the dodgers are interested but are waiting to see if the D-bakcs deal goes through. We will know that today. If they don't get there catcher they will go after AJ, if they get the catcher they probably won't. I think we will understand all this better today or tommorrow as the deadline ends. In addition, I still beelive we will end up giving AJ 2.5 with an option for next year. (if the dodgers fall out) What other options does htis guy have? LA also has to wait on the Shawn Green deal going through as well. AZ is having problems getting him to agree on an extension. C would have to be on the back burner as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I think 2.5 gets Pyrz, maybe a little less, but we'll wait and see. I wish the Sox would go more then 1 year with him though cause they got jacks*** in the farm system when it comes to starting catchers anywhere near major league ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 If Sox don't sign either player this should make the Q and A at Sox Fest this year interesting again!!! Steff... You taking notes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 10:29 AM) When was the last time the Sox were able to pull off a Salary dump in our favor.. The boss doesn't want to waste anymore money than needed. I say sign him for 2 years and then trade for a C prospect. We dumped Elo for Jose and received money. We *didn't* sign Maggs because he was asking too much. We dumped part of Billy Botch's salary on Florida But these are the exception. We usually lose the salary dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Interesting that AJ is basically pulling the same stuff that Maggs pulled, but no one is calling him a greedy SOB and wishing we don't sign him for it. :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Ok, I've cleaned this thread up. All the other stuff was split and put in a new post over on SL&P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:45 PM) Ok, I've cleaned this thread up. All the other stuff was split and put in a new post over on SL&P. On behalf of FlaSoxxJim, Queen Prawn, and myself, Thanks alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I wish people will relax. To be clear and not implement myself. I find it much easier to type "Jap" than try to spell this guys name. Take no offense, and if you do, please relax. There are many more things for you guys to contemplate in life. Wait till you get older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(quickman @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:46 PM) I wish people will relax. To be clear and not implement myself. I find it much easier to type "Jap" than try to spell this guys name. Take no offense, and if you do, please relax. There are many more things for you guys to contemplate in life. Wait till you get older. The "old ones" just can't follow directions.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(Texsox @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:45 PM) Interesting that AJ is basically pulling the same stuff that Maggs pulled, but no one is calling him a greedy SOB and wishing we don't sign him for it. :banghead Basically? Not even close. He didn't lie about a surgery. He didn't ask a team employee not to tell on him. He didn't turn down a long term extension. He didn't promise to turn over medical records, then didn't. He didn't promise to work out for teams, then didn't. He didn't claim to be working out, when he had just had a secret surgery days before. He didn't consult another agent a year before firing his own agent. But other than that I could see how it is close... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 01:53 PM) Basically? Not even close. He didn't lie about a surgery. He didn't ask a team employee not to tell on him. He didn't turn down a long term extension. He didn't promise to turn over medical records, then didn't. He didn't promise to work out for teams, then didn't. He didn't claim to be working out, when he had just had a secret surgery days before. He didn't consult another agent a year before firing his own agent. But other than that I could see how it is close... LMAO!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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