IlliniKrush Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 01:38 PM) Columbus also has a good nucleus of some young players. Rick Nash, and that Russian kid -- grr, his name doesn't come to mind right now (and I'm not talking about Ovechkin, either). Boy, I hope this is true. I miss watching some of our young Hawks like Vandermeer, Ruutu, Bell, Arny, and Calder develop. While this isn't a real great time to be a Hawk fan, it sure is fun watching them develop -- lots of young players, no old vets (Korolev and Krapov gone! Beautiful! ) taking away PT from the kids. Plus -- It'll be a joy watching our blueline develop over the next five years. Byfuglien, Wisnewski, Babchuk, Barinka, Barker, Seabrook -- definitely a nice start, as well as a boatload of others at Norfolk... Zherdev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 07:31 AM) Panthers Thrashers Coyotes Sabres Penguins Blues Mighty Ducks these are the teams that should go.... heh...kidding about the Blues.....sort of..... I don't think the Ducks are going anywhere. They have struggled with attendance the past 2 years or so, but prior to that they were sellout machines and if they can draw in the area. Hell there was a crazy buzz about them during that playoff run and ticket sales were strong at the start of last year but then they fell flat on there faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 San Jose would be a better contraction target than Anaheim. If Columbus had an NBA team.... BJ attendance would go down quickly. Yes, I know how that sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 01:24 PM) Carolina back to Hartford. Go WHALE!!! WHALE!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited January 26, 2005 by Queen Prawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 QUOTE(Man Of Steel @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 05:57 PM) Phoenix Nashville Columbus Florida Buffalo are the teams that I think need to be done away with i can agree with your list (Columbus only because I'd want the Hawks to get Nash on a contraction draft ) but i would switch out Phoenix (who have a great fan base) with Pittsburgh who are always on the verge of bankrupcy (plus it gives us the first pick in contraction draft ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 I actully i'm starting to miss going to Islander games, but that's probably about it. I do hope Hockey ends the lockout soon becasue there are many diehard hockey fans that are really missing it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Well, so much for optimism. Read in the Sun-Times today that both sides agree that no progress has been made and no future talks are scheduled. The talks scheduled for today were cancelled because both sides feel they're going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 08:28 AM) Well, so much for optimism. Read in the Sun-Times today that both sides agree that no progress has been made and no future talks are scheduled. The talks scheduled for today were cancelled because both sides feel they're going nowhere. Thed NHL deserves to die. Both sides of this dispute are nothing more than a bunch of money hungry children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 The players caved 90%. The money hungry children are the ones keeping the lockout going... and those would be the owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(winodj @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 10:01 AM) The players caved 90%. The money hungry children are the ones keeping the lockout going... and those would be the owners. I about fainted when I saw the players proposal. A 24% reduction is salary is just incredible. That's more than the airlines who are hemoraging billions of dollars a year could get out of their unions, but because it doesn't offer "cost certianty" they won't listen. How about this for cost certianty, don't spend more than you make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 They also proposed luxury taxes and a soft cap. They proposed a soft salary cap. They actually caved to the point of accepting a cap in principle. Owners still said no. I hope every NHL team folds now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 The owners are hoping to break this union...they are going to break this whole league and then its over for them....greedy f***s.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Yzerman is not hopeful. NHL's latest offer: Max cap 42M, Min cap 32M - future caps linked to % of annual revenue like in the NFL - acceptance of the NHLPA offer of a 24% across the board reduction in player's salary - no indiv player cap (like the NBA has) - qualifying offers reduced from 110 to 75% of a player's salary There is a possibility this offer will be accepted because the 42M exceeds the avg annual revenue per team in '04. It certainly appears that the owners want a system similar to the NFL. There the cap is linked to 67% of league revenues. Since the NFL system has been in place the cap has grown some 30%. The answer of course is that parity & liquidity of free agent movement has led to the growth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 It's not going to happen. Break the union already and start calling the AHL the NHL. That's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 01:26 PM) I think, if the lockout went much longer, most Detroit player would just forget about retiring and die of old age. LMAO!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I have been hearing tones of reports from the U.S. like this one about how it's close to ove and s***. I can tell you though I haven't heard a Canadian report of optimism at all. I think we all know what we knew a long time ago, they'll have some serious talks again in Sept 05. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 September? Try December of 2005. I think they have no object except to break the current union. The ONLY glimmer I have heard (as Juggs alluded to) is that the players were softening on the cap a little because the $42 million was a higher amount then the average payroll per team last year AND they want to guarantee profit sharing all the way through. The thing is the NFL system in the NHL will NEVER work. There's not enough revenue sources, and you can thank Gary Buttman for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 So that's even odds that the NHL survives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 01:31 PM) It's not going to happen. Break the union already and start calling the AHL the NHL. That's all. That's just great. Hand Gary Buttman and Bill Wirtz another hockey leauge to run into the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(kapkomet @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 10:15 AM) September? Try December of 2005. I think they have no object except to break the current union. The ONLY glimmer I have heard (as Juggs alluded to) is that the players were softening on the cap a little because the $42 million was a higher amount then the average payroll per team last year AND they want to guarantee profit sharing all the way through. The thing is the NFL system in the NHL will NEVER work. There's not enough revenue sources, and you can thank Gary Buttman for that. Kap, what are some extra revenue sources NHL teams could have usen if it wasn't for Bettman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 01:13 AM) Kap, what are some extra revenue sources NHL teams could have usen if it wasn't for Bettman? There's the misperception - the only way to save hockey is for the people who run the NHL to realize that hockey IS a niche sport, at least in the US anyway, and it isn't going to have the same ANYTHING as the major sports. It's not going to have the same ratings, revenues, mainstream acceptance, none of that. There are enough people who love it in certain geographical areas to support it, but it's simply not going to be a national sport. It's just NOT... Know your place in the foodchain, fellas....or die off completely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 FWIW, the NHLPA and the NHL are going to be meeting again today in New York. Wow, would today's staying home sick turn into an awesome surprise if they were able to resolve some things today at the meeting. But I guess I shouldn't hold my breath... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 2, 2005 -> 12:13 AM) Kap, what are some extra revenue sources NHL teams could have usen if it wasn't for Bettman? http://www.floridatoday.com/!NEWSROOM/...yS0125TAKE5.htm I remember that S.I. cover what a difference 10 yrs make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Rumor is the axe falls on the season today or this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 at this point i'd rather the season get cancelled. Playing a 30 game season is just dumb. It would be only for the owners to make their money in the playoffs. End the season already and come back in September. Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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