January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 02:25 PM) How would this make sense, we'd have 6 starters. Maybe if Gooch is going to play SS, moving Uribe to 3B and putting Willie at 2B. Still wouldn't understand having 6 starters though, unless we can pawn off Garland on another team and get a 3B in return. How about a three way deal with the Angels? Dodgers get Crede, Angels get Weaver, Sox get Chone Figgins. Don't know about the Dodgers or Angels, but I'd do it in a heartbeat.
January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 12:13 AM) How about a three way deal with the Angels? Dodgers get Crede, Angels get Weaver, Sox get Chone Figgins. Don't know about the Dodgers or Angels, but I'd do it in a heartbeat. I don't think they would either, but ya, I'd do that.
January 31, 200521 yr I can't see why the Dodgers would do this and it leaves us without a 3B or SS depending on where Uribe plays...
January 31, 200521 yr only way this trade would happen is if KW plans to make another deal happen. Or maybe encourage his brother to sign with us next year when we draft him
January 31, 200521 yr I agree this is crap. But to cross-thread here, it would return a key figure in the Sox Tigers fight. Maybe Weaver could plunk Ordonez and start another fight.
January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 06:37 PM) I agree this is crap. But to cross-thread here, it would return a key figure in the Sox Tigers fight. Maybe Weaver could plunk Ordonez and start another fight. Spin Weaver off on someone...It's not hard to trade a good SP to someone. Hinske is the odd-man out. Pick him up, and then spin Weaver off on someone. Weaver's trade value is much higher than Crede's at the moment. If the Dodgers were to do this, then do it. People have been bickering about Crede and how he hasn't done crap here, well now is the chance to trade him for someone good, and everyone is barking at it. I, for one, would do it in a heartbeat, and figure out somewhere to fill Crede's MVP like production...
January 31, 200521 yr Spin Weaver off on someone...It's not hard to trade a good SP to someone. Hinske is the odd-man out. Pick him up, and then spin Weaver off on someone. Weaver's trade value is much higher than Crede's at the moment. If the Dodgers were to do this, then do it. People have been bickering about Crede and how he hasn't done crap here, well now is the chance to trade him for someone good, and everyone is barking at it. I, for one, would do it in a heartbeat, and figure out somewhere to fill Crede's MVP like production... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> $$$$$ Crede doesn't make that much, Weaver makes big coin, $7M or more. Sox would not do this deal, they cannot pick up this much payroll.
January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(JimH @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 07:02 PM) $$$$$ Crede doesn't make that much, Weaver makes big coin, $7M or more. Sox would not do this deal, they cannot pick up this much payroll. I wouldn't see the Sox keep Weaver around....I think he would be traded right away. As someone mentioned, Toronto would be a good fit with Hinske available and maybe a pen arm or a couple of good prospects or whatnot... Or, if Jerry wants to spend the money, let him...
January 31, 200521 yr I don't see this happening. And I'll hurt myself if that means Jose Valentin is coming back.
January 31, 200521 yr Is Eric Hinske any better than Crediocre? He makes a lot more money as of now and has produuced marginally better. I think Eric will wind up in Cinci sooner or later.
January 31, 200521 yr The White Sox have five starters on Jan 30th. Big deal. If somebody gets hurts. Somebody isn't pitching well. What then?? Better to have more of something than less. I would rather have 6 starters than 4. And when El Do nothing proves he's a fraud we'll all be screaming for another starter. But I'm not a Weaver fan. Also when Jim McMahon was with the SD Chargers be blew snot on T J Simers because McMahon didn't like some of the things Simers wrote. Proving once again what a jerk McMahon really was.
January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) Is Eric Hinske any better than Crediocre? He makes a lot more money as of now and has produuced marginally better. I think Eric will wind up in Cinci sooner or later. That's unlikely to happen considering they have Sean Casey at 1st, and they signed Joe Randa to play 3rd base.
January 31, 200521 yr I live in LA, and haven't heard anything out here about this rumor. I doubt it will happen, because of the money, but this would be a GREAT trade for the Sox. That's a lot of value for Crede, who doesn't really have a lot of value, but this is dependent on too many things to happen. You never know, though... DePodesta is blowing up the Dodgers, and Kenny may be in position to swing a great deal.
January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(SABRSox @ Jan 31, 2005 -> 07:10 AM) I live in LA, and haven't heard anything out here about this rumor. I doubt it will happen, because of the money, but this would be a GREAT trade for the Sox. That's a lot of value for Crede, who doesn't really have a lot of value, but this is dependent on too many things to happen. You never know, though... DePodesta is blowing up the Dodgers, and Kenny may be in position to swing a great deal. not happening. oh, and i live in LA as well.
January 31, 200521 yr About Nakamura, if the Sox did indeed bid to negotiate with him (and that's if, which is very unlikely), here's how much he'll settle to play for; One such report said that in order to fulfill his dream of playing in the major leagues, Nakamura would be willing to play for about $500,000 annually -- a 90 percent cut from his 2004 salary with the Kintetsu Buffaloes, roughly $5 million.
January 31, 200521 yr I agree with an earlier post in that they aren't going to pay Jose Valentin 3.5 mil to sit on the bench.
January 31, 200521 yr QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Feb 1, 2005 -> 12:43 AM) Maybe KW wants Jose V back I would friggin :puke His sub .300 OBP would fit perfectly into our lineup ya know.
January 31, 200521 yr This trade only makes sense with more pcs. Weaver + Nakamuru + cash for Crede + Contreras. The cash is equal to what Nakamuru would cost the Sox. I can see where this rumor originated. The LA Times mentioned the Sox as one of the teams bidding for Nakamuru. He's projected to be no better than an average everyday player. He's expected to sign a minor league deal & then have to earn a spot on the roster. Money wise it would make sense for the Sox. They get out from Contreras 06 cost, deal away another BorASS client, & pick up Weaver & cash for about the same cost as Contra. Odd as this sounds Weaver has more experience than the mid-30 Contra. The Sox would not make this deal unless they thought Naku or someone else was ready to come in & play 3B w/out weaking the middle IF.
January 31, 200521 yr Author LA daily news mentions that the Whitesox are very intersted in the japanese 3B. Maybe they are getting scouting reports from Iguchi and Shingo that Nakumara is a very good player... The article also mentions that Minnesota are also intersted
February 1, 200521 yr The LA Times is reporting that the LAD did indeed win the bid process. Naki will most likely be offered a ml contract. If he doesn't make the LAD cut then he would still have the opp to go back to Japan. This rumor will likely remain on hold until after ST.
February 1, 200521 yr NOT GONNA HAPPEN. The Sox are high on Crede - and with good reason. They aren't trading for another starting pitcher - and definitely not Weaver if they do. If a starting pitcher goes down during the season, they could always trade Crede then. I doubt they are going to take a chance on the Jap. 3rd baseman - they have not even seen Iguchi play yet and don't know for sure if he'll pan out.
February 1, 200521 yr QUOTE(silver and black @ Jan 30, 2005 -> 01:48 PM) I would rather have JC as starter i'd rather have weaver's little brother
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