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Our manager is clueless with the bullpen

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They counted agaist kevin walker not him

That makes it okay! LOL!

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Jizzcaino has officially joined Marte and Cotts in the "I'm too big of a pussy to come in with runners on base club".

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:28 PM)
They counted agaist kevin walker not him

 

LOL. Then he forced the bases full the next inning. He rawkz my sawkz... hehe.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:19 PM)
In all honesty, that's probably pretty accurate.  It's kinda sad though that we have so many guys that need to be off the team.

Yes, it is not an enviable position to be in.

 

The more I think about it, if the intent was indeed to test Walker, he was put into the perfect situation. Bringing in a rookie for mop up doesn't really accomplish much if you are trying to gauge his potential. It was do or die for Walker, and of course we know how that turned out. Though Shingo and Vizcaino are struggling (to put it mildly), their capabilities are already known.

 

I'm with everyone who claims the move was boneheaded, from the standpoint of winning the game, but by looking at the big picture, I can understand what management may have been doing. It is still very early and the Sox still have a four game lead. If Ozzie makes these same calls in August, I'll be the first to call for his head, but I give him a (tentative) pass for tonight.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:29 PM)
That makes it okay!  LOL!

 

It dosent make it ok but i thought Viz did ok tonight compared to all the other things that went wrong

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 03:27 AM)
Are you f***ing serious?  He pulled a Mike Jackson tonight.  :lolhitting

Stop insulting Jackson....

QUOTE(nvxplorer @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:30 PM)
Yes, it is not an enviable position to be in.

 

The more I think about it, if the intent was indeed to test Walker, he was put into the perfect situation. Bringing in a rookie for mop up doesn't really accomplish much if you are trying to gauge his potential. It was do or die for Walker, and of course we know how that turned out. Though Shingo and Vizcaino are struggling (to put it mildly), their capabilities are already known.

 

I'm with everyone who claims the move was boneheaded, from the standpoint of winning the game, but by looking at the big picture, I can understand what management may have been doing. It is still very early and the Sox still have a four game lead. If Ozzie makes these same calls in August, I'll be the first to call for his head, but I give him a (tentative) pass for tonight.

 

Just a question: are you referring to Walker as a rookie?

Maybe the White Sox will bring up Bobby Jenks for Walker now. I thought they should've done that in the first place if they were going to bring up Walker. I don't like that guy one bit. If only his name was Tyler and not Kevin.

LOL. Then he forced the bases full the next inning. He rawkz my sawkz... hehe.

I am still stupified that he said that. :banghead

I still find the "we got Viz to clean up Walkers mess" line hilarious. :lolhitting

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:31 PM)
Maybe the White Sox will bring up Bobby Jenks for Walker now. I thought they should've done that in the first place if they were going to bring up Walker. I don't like that guy one bit. If only his name was Tyler and not Kevin.

 

Please make it stop.

 

Bobby Jenks is this team's future closer/set-up man and he could be one for the ages.

 

Don't touch that with a ten foot pole. If you are looking for help from the minors, it should come from Soxtalk's own prodigal son.

It dosent make it ok but i thought Viz did ok tonight compared to all the other things that went wrong

Wow, did you really even watch the f***ing game? Seriously?

Vizcaino wasn't that bad tonight. He was more effective than Walker and Hermanson. He should have been brought in to start the 7th, but the Angels had 3 or 4 lefties up, and Ozzie loves lefty/lefty matchups no matter how poor his LHP is.

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QUOTE(nvxplorer @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 03:30 AM)
Yes, it is not an enviable position to be in.

 

The more I think about it, if the intent was indeed to test Walker, he was put into the perfect situation. Bringing in a rookie for mop up doesn't really accomplish much if you are trying to gauge his potential. It was do or die for Walker, and of course we know how that turned out. Though Shingo and Vizcaino are struggling (to put it mildly), their capabilities are already known.

 

I'm with everyone who claims the move was boneheaded, from the standpoint of winning the game, but by looking at the big picture, I can understand what management may have been doing. It is still very early and the Sox still have a four game lead. If Ozzie makes these same calls in August, I'll be the first to call for his head, but I give him a (tentative) pass for tonight.

Did you by chance make a call into the post game show?

QUOTE(nvxplorer @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:30 PM)
Yes, it is not an enviable position to be in.

 

The more I think about it, if the intent was indeed to test Walker, he was put into the perfect situation. Bringing in a rookie for mop up doesn't really accomplish much if you are trying to gauge his potential. It was do or die for Walker, and of course we know how that turned out. Though Shingo and Vizcaino are struggling (to put it mildly), their capabilities are already known.

 

I'm with everyone who claims the move was boneheaded, from the standpoint of winning the game, but by looking at the big picture, I can understand what management may have been doing. It is still very early and the Sox still have a four game lead. If Ozzie makes these same calls in August, I'll be the first to call for his head, but I give him a (tentative) pass for tonight.

 

 

MOP UP?!?!?! AS I RECALL WE HAD THE LEAD WHEN WALKER CAME IN.

I would hate to see what people consider a ''badly'' pitched game by vizcaino.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:29 PM)
Jizzcaino has officially joined Marte and Cotts in the "I'm too big of a pussy to come in with runners on base club".

But would you wants Cotts to come in with runners on?

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 03:31 AM)
Maybe the White Sox will bring up Bobby Jenks for Walker now. I thought they should've done that in the first place if they were going to bring up Walker. I don't like that guy one bit. If only his name was Tyler and not Kevin.

Jenks is too good to be brought up now. If anyone, take Baj up.

 

 

But noone will be brought up, due to the already overflowing roster space.

Note to Walker:

 

Win or try dying.

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QUOTE(3E8 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 11:35 PM)
Note to Walker:

 

Win or try dying.

Harsh.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 03:35 AM)
Note to Walker:

 

Win or try dying.

Already dead.

I would hate to see what people consider a ''badly'' pitched game by vizcaino.

Jizzcan was awesome because he only gave up 2 inherited runs (that don't count against his ERA) and he loaded the bases the next inning.

QUOTE(sayitanitso @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 03:34 AM)
But would you wants Cotts to come in with runners on?

I thought I made that clear.....NO!

The move that ticked me off the most is, Timo starting at 1st. Worst player in MLB to start at that position.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 09:35 PM)
Note to Walker:

 

Win or try dying.

 

In that case, he's going back to Charlotte in a hearse.

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