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Twins vs White Sox 9-22 Official Gamethread

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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 03:35 PM)
Righties are hitting .203 against Santana and lefties .260. Looks like Ozzie is applying the same philosophy he uses with his relief pitchers to the line-up now.

He's done this at least the last couple times Santana has shut us out.

 

You know...I wonder what righties would be hitting against Santana if you could exlude the White Sox.

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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 04:40 PM)
He's done this at least the last couple times Santana has shut us out.

 

You know...I wonder what righties would be hitting against Santana if you could exlude the White Sox.

The OPS is about .150 higher for lefties as well. Maybe a couple of his pitches will find a bat tonight.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 10:39 PM)
Hasn't Ozzie said each of the last 3 days that he wasn't going to play with the lineup?

 

That's his justification to not play any of the young guys and keep Everett in the lineup.

You're going to hear a lot of b****ing from Hawk tonight if this lineup struggles.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 04:45 PM)
You're going to hear a lot of b****ing from Hawk tonight if this lineup struggles.

That would be refreshing.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 03:44 PM)
That's his justification to not play any of the young guys and keep Everett in the lineup.

Well, Borchard is on a cold streak, he's down to hitting .750, so...

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 03:45 PM)
You're going to hear a lot of b****ing from Hawk tonight if this lineup struggles.

When. Not if.

 

Santana would have to be seriously off for our lineup to not struggle against him.

 

Our best hope for this game is the kid.

Tonight's game is going to be a blast!

 

How tough has Santana been on the White Sox of late? Try these stats on for size.

 

The defending American League Cy Young winner has 14 victories in 2005. He has one win apiece against the Angels, Indians, Tigers, Royals, Yankees, A's, Mariners, Blue Jays, Diamondbacks and Devil Rays. Santana is 4-0 against the White Sox, with a 0.86 ERA.

 

Santana has won his last six starts against the White Sox, featuring an ERA under 1.00 during that time. He took a no-hitter into the seventh inning during an Aug. 17 start at U.S. Cellular Field earlier this season, and he carried a no-hitter into the fifth last Saturday at the Metrodome during a game in which he struck out 13.

 

Freddy Garcia threw a one-hitter during a head-to-head matchup with his Venezuelan countryman on Aug. 23 in Minneapolis, and he still lost a 1-0 decision.

 

Aaron Rowand (13), Paul Konerko (10), Jermaine Dye (nine) and Joe Crede (eight) have combined for 40 career strikeouts against Santana. They are hoping that number doesn't increase significantly on Thursday, as they try to avoid their seventh loss in eight games at U.S. Cellular Field.

Looking in the rearview mirror again...Keith Foulke is out for the season according to ESPN.

Call me stupid (Ouch, not so loud) but I think we're going to get to Santana tonight.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 04:35 PM)
Righties are hitting .203 against Santana and lefties .260. Looks like Ozzie is applying the same philosophy he uses with his relief pitchers to the line-up now.

:lolhitting :crying

We could make our lineup all lefties + Ozuna.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 05:08 PM)
We could make our lineup all lefties + Ozuna.

it's possible Everett may bat lefty, he's done it before...

 

this will be an odd game, with last night's egg laying and the weather looking threatening there will be a little crowd, Sox seem to perform well...

 

I hope B-Mac gives them a chance, I have confidence he will

Please stop complaining about Ozzie, you're going to make him quit.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 04:11 PM)
it's possible Everett may bat lefty, he's done it before...

Frighteningly, Everett has been a much better hitter right handed for most of the year.

Minnesota Twins
Jason Tyner LF .303
Jason Bartlett SS .249
Joe Mauer C .304
Matthew LeCroy DH .267
Jacque Jones CF .251
Michael Cuddyer RF .262
Justin Morneau 1B .239
Terry Tiffee 3B .213
Luis Rivas 2B .260
 Johan Santana P (14-7 3.05)


Chicago White Sox
Pablo Ozuna LF .273
Tadahito Iguchi 2B .277
Carl Everett DH .249
Paul Konerko 1B .275
Aaron Rowand CF .275
Jermaine Dye RF .270
Juan Uribe SS .258
Chris Widger C .242
Joe Crede 3B .248
 Brandon McCarthy P (2-1 4.72)

Umpires: HP: Wally Bell 1B: Jim Reynolds 2B: Lance Barksdale 3B: Rob Drake

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 03:35 PM)
Righties are hitting .203 against Santana and lefties .260. Looks like Ozzie is applying the same philosophy he uses with his relief pitchers to the line-up now.

 

the crazy thing is that Ozzie knows this. I would love to know his rationale.

Wow, just heard KW's bite on the pregame show. Sounds like he's less than pleased about Ozzie airing his feelings about quitting after winning a WS.

 

It's sad, but Ozzie seems to be melting down a bit. No doubt there's been a lot of pressure with this collapse.

I do like Ozuna leading off against Santana, the rest really wouldn't matter to me. Nobodies going to hit him anyway.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 05:44 PM)
Wow, just heard KW's bite on the pregame show. Sounds like he's less than pleased about Ozzie airing his feelings about quitting after winning a WS.

 

It's sad, but Ozzie seems to be melting down a bit. No doubt there's been a lot of pressure with this collapse.

Can't blame him. What did he say?

QUOTE(Colorado Sox Fan @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 11:05 PM)
Call me stupid (Ouch, not so loud) but I think we're going to get to Santana tonight.

Thats a good one one. Your a really funny guy.

 

 

*Thinks to himself "God I hope he is right"*

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 11:46 PM)
I do like Ozuna leading off against Santana, the rest really wouldn't matter to me. Nobodies going to hit him anyway.

 

Besides for the great leadoff hitter Grady Sizemore :P

Great news: Mike Sweeney is out of the lineup vs Indians tonight

QUOTE(Colorado Sox Fan @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 04:47 PM)
Can't blame him. What did he say?

 

He said he doesn't care about all that peripheral ...then he caught himself as he started to say "s***" and apologized, and said "stuff". He's just concerned with what's going on on the field. Very blunt.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2005 -> 04:56 PM)
Great news: Mike Sweeney is out of the lineup vs Indians tonight

 

brilliant

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