The Official "Fire Ozzie" Thread

[fathom]

He might play in these next two games, I hope he does great, I am pulling for him big time.

 

But some of these "he would've been our best ..." proclamations are off the wall.

 

Of course, I root for any Sox player, no matter if I like them or dislike them. Even though it would have been nice to see if Gload could spark this offense when they were struggling, I'm not surprised he didn't really get a chance. He's been in the doghouse all year, and it's likely we'll never know why (like Kelly Wunsch). I was very pleased with Borchard's AB last night, and he really had a solid approach at the plate.

[VAfan]

Oh my God, this post has so much drivel I don't know where to begin.

 

If you go back and read the game thread, you'll see I wanted Pierzynski up there to pinch hit, and even if they brought in the lefthander, leave him in there.  He is known to be a guy who gets a big hit, and he undoubtedly would have amped it up after failing against Walker the nite before.

 

But, that aside, you are one of the guys who complains about all the lefty-righty matchups Guillen does, and then you want to play checkers with righty-lefty hitting match ups.  Which is it?

 

Also, please forward your crystal ball, which assures us that Gload would've been our best pinch hitter by far this year. 

 

You really need to take that Ross Gload poster off your wall, after all it was Guillen who gave Gload his big chance in the first place.

 

Ross Gload, savior?  Only in your world.

 

Get a grip. Gload was a very good bench player for us last year, posting the best average on the team for guys with 200+ ABs. He's not a savior, but he should have been used ahead of Timo Perez and Geoff Blum this August when our offense went completely south. Can you defend the use of those players ahead of a guy who hit .315 for us last year and showed in AAA he can still hit?

[Guest JimH]

Get a grip.  Gload was a very good bench player for us last year, posting the best average on the team for guys with 200+ ABs.  He's not a savior, but he should have been used ahead of Timo Perez and Geoff Blum this August when our offense went completely south.  Can you defend the use of those players ahead of a guy who hit .315 for us last year and showed in AAA he can still hit?

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I have a clear grip on AAA vs. major leagues, you've yet to demonstrate that proficiency.

 

We all understand your man love for Gload, you've only posted it, oh, 500 times already.

[alexgtp]

Moronic post.

 

Why would you fire him?

 

Are the players not also to blame.

 

Sure ozzie has made some bad moves here and there.. But these are profesisonal players. If they are put into certain situations they should be able to respond.

 

I think the entire team is too blame.. So you might as well fire everyone..!!

[VAfan]

I have a clear grip on AAA vs. major leagues, you've yet to demonstrate that proficiency.

 

We all understand your man love for Gload, you've only posted it, oh, 500 times already.

 

Name me all the Sox players who hit better than Gload's .315 major league average last year that received more than 200 ABs? I don't give two craps about Ross Gload, but I do want our manager to play the better hitter whenever he has the option, whomever that person is.

[RockRaines]

Name me all the Sox players who hit better than Gload's .315 major league average last year that received more than 200 ABs? I don't give two craps about Ross Gload, but I do want our manager to play the better hitter whenever he has the option, whomever that person is.

What has he done this year. We all know in the world of baseball, one years performance does not always translate to the next year.

[hammerhead johnson]

Fool me once, shame on me.

Fool me twice, shame on you.

 

What happens if they fool you 5 times?

 

It's the other way around.

 

 

[Balta1701]

What has he done this year.  We all know in the world of baseball, one years performance does not always translate to the next year.

He's a whopping 3 for 22 since returning from the DL. Yeah, man, what has he done for us this year?

[Rowand44]

What has he done this year.  We all know in the world of baseball, one years performance does not always translate to the next year.

He's crushed the ball in aaa, he hasn't had a chance to do anything in the majors. Ross has hit everywhere he has been including the majors, it makes absolutely no f'n sense to me why he hasn't got a chance this season. I just don't get it.

[Kyyle23]

He's crushed the ball in aaa, he hasn't had a chance to do anything in the majors.  Ross has hit everywhere he has been including the majors, it makes absolutely no f'n sense to me why he hasn't got a chance this season.  I just don't get it.

 

Why is it so hard to understand that Gload hurt his shoulder in spring training and still has not regained his throwing arm? So what if he tore it up in AAA? The guy was fantastic last year because of his ability to be a utility player and play OF and 1B. Now you want someone on the bench to be just a backup 1B? Name me a player on the bench this year who couldnt play more than one position on the field. Ozzies bench is full of utility players. Even Willie Harris has played more than one position while he was in the big leagues earlier in the season.

[Rowand44]

Why is it so hard to understand that Gload hurt his shoulder in spring training and still has not regained his throwing arm? So what if he tore it up in AAA?  The guy was fantastic last year because of his ability to be a utility player and play OF and 1B. Now you want someone on the bench to be just a backup 1B?  Name me a player on the bench this year who couldnt play more than one position on the field.  Ozzies bench is full of utility players. Even Willie Harris has played more than one position while he was in the big leagues earlier in the season.

Why do we need so many utility players?? Up until the trade deadline we didnt have a backup first baseman, isn't that enough reason to have gload on the roster? Ozuna can play everywhere in the infield and the outfield, widger is the back up catcher, timo and carl can play the outfield, why the hell did we need ross to play the outfield when we didn't have a backup first baseman?

[Kyyle23]

Why do we need so many utility players??  Up until the trade deadline we didnt have a backup first baseman, isn't that enough reason to have gload on the roster?  Ozuna can play everywhere in the infield and the outfield, widger is the back up catcher, timo and carl can play the outfield, why the hell did we need ross to play the outfield when we didn't have a backup first baseman?

 

I dont think Gload was necassary. And he isnt proving me wrong with his performance either.

[hammerhead johnson]

Our talent IS great.

 

We have so much talent on offense that it's scary.

 

AL Team OBP

1. Boston .357

2. New York .355

3. Cleveland .336

4. Oakland .332

5. Tampa Bay .330

6. Texas .330

7. Toronto .329

8. Baltimore .328

9. Los Angeles .324

10. Detroit .323

11. Minnesota .322

12. Chicago .322

13. Kansas City .319

14. Seattle .318

 

AL Team Batting Average

1. Boston .282

2. New York .276

3. Tampa Bay .275

4. Cleveland .273

5. Detroit .272

6. Los Angeles .270

7. Baltimore .270

8. Texas .268

9. Toronto .264

10. Oakland .263

11. Kansas City .262

12. Chicago .262

13. Minnesota .258

14. Seattle .256

 

Hits

1. Boston 1539

2. New York 1505

3. Texas 1487

4. Cleveland 1483

5. Tampa Bay 1482

6. Detroit 1480

7. Los Angeles 1468

8. Baltimore 1455

9. Oakland 1432

10. Toronto 1427

11. Kansas City 1398

12. Chicago 1398

13. Minnesota 1394

14. Seattle 1369

 

Doubles

1. Boston .334

2. Cleveland 324

3. Texas 302

4. Oakland 296

5. Toronto 292

6. Baltimore 289

7. Seattle 284

8. Kansas City 283

9. Tampa Bay 283

10. Detroit 278

11. Los Angeles 271

12. Minnesota 262

13. New York 253

14. Chicago 248

 

AL Team SB% In 100 Or More Attempts

1. Tampa Bay 77% (189 Attempts)

2. New York 75% (106 Attempts)

3. Los Angeles 74% (209 Attempts)

4. Minnesota 70% (141 Attempts)

5. Baltimore 69% (118 Attempts)

6. Seattle 68% (148 Attempts)

7. Toronto 68% (103 Attempts)

8. Chicago 67% (198 Attempts)

[kapkomet]

ok.

 

now show me the pitching... I know, different conversation, but taken as a whole that will explain 95 wins.

[hammerhead johnson]

Uuuum, can you tell me where I said that any certain player was great? No. I said talent. Every player has a talent, else they would not be in the f***ing MLB. Difficult concept? I dont think so. Carl Everett has talent. He has power and he is a vocal leader. Jermaine Dye has talent. Superior defense, good power. Joe Crede - Very cluth, EXCELLENt defense. Juan Uribe - strong arm, good D. Aaron - Awesome defense. Pods - Fastest guy in MLB, distracts pitcher, good bunter.

 

Do you see that? Do you see how everyone has a certain skill they are very good at...wow! :headshake

 

You said that our talent was GREAT, collectively. Now you're saying that every player has a skill in the MLB that they're great at, or otherwise, they wouldn't be playing at this level. Therefore, every team has great talent.

 

I swear, you post some insanely idiotic s*** sometimes.

[nitetrain8601]

We have so much talent on offense that it's scary.

 

AL Team OBP

1. Boston .357

2. New York .355

3. Cleveland .336

4. Oakland .332

5. Tampa Bay .330

6. Texas .330

7. Toronto .329

8. Baltimore .328

9. Los Angeles .324

10. Detroit .323

11. Minnesota .322

12. Chicago .322

13. Kansas City .319

14. Seattle .318

 

AL Team Batting Average

1. Boston .282

2. New York .276

3. Tampa Bay .275

4. Cleveland .273

5. Detroit .272

6. Los Angeles .270

7. Baltimore .270

8. Texas .268

9. Toronto .264

10. Oakland .263

11. Kansas City .262

12. Chicago .262

13. Minnesota .258

14. Seattle .256

 

Hits

1. Boston 1539

2. New York 1505

3. Texas 1487

4. Cleveland 1483

5. Tampa Bay 1482

6. Detroit 1480

7. Los Angeles 1468

8. Baltimore 1455

9. Oakland 1432

10. Toronto 1427

11. Kansas City 1398

12. Chicago 1398

13. Minnesota 1394

14. Seattle 1369

 

Doubles

1. Boston .334

2. Cleveland 324

3. Texas 302

4. Oakland 296

5. Toronto 292

6. Baltimore 289

7. Seattle 284

8. Kansas City 283

9. Tampa Bay 283

10. Detroit 278

11. Los Angeles 271

12. Minnesota 262

13. New York 253

14. Chicago 248

 

AL Team SB% In 100 Or More Attempts

1. Tampa Bay 77% (189 Attempts)

2. New York 75% (106 Attempts)

3. Los Angeles 74% (209 Attempts)

4. Minnesota 70% (141 Attempts)

5. Baltimore 69% (118 Attempts)

6. Seattle 68% (148 Attempts)

7. Toronto 68% (103 Attempts)

8. Chicago 67% (198 Attempts)

 

But Cleveland's 2nd half offense = White Sox 1st half offense. At least that's what I read from a poster. You're telling me he was wrong??

[hammerhead johnson]

ok.

 

now show me the pitching... I know, different conversation, but taken as a whole that will explain 95 wins.

 

Right, but to say that the Sox as a whole are greatly talented is bogus. You won't find very many people with actual baseball knowledge who would be inclined to agree.

[kapkomet]

Right, but to say that the Sox as a whole are greatly talented is bogus.  You won't find very many people with actual baseball knowledge who would be inclined to agree.

True. The lack of talent on this team is actually frightening. But they are more of a TEAM then most other clubs. I guess we will see what that brings.

[qwerty]

Ozzie guillen from marlins perspective....

 

Mckeon not leaving...?