fathom Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Ah yes...Hawk saying our pitching is finally coming around now. We're going to have to hear that line all offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 11:52 AM) Haven't the posts on this board showed you that most Sox fans are happy with the Sox performance this year? Or, they are happy about last year and are giving the Sox a pass for this year. Or, they have come up with handy excuses for the Sox horrible play. So don't expect booing. Most Sox fans are okay with this s***. You act like we're under .500 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 08:53 PM) You act like we're under .500 or something. For the last 80 games or so, we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 01:53 AM) You act like we're under .500 or something. Â We're well under .500 since the ASB, and the intensity level has been pathetic down the stretch. I have no problem with this team not making the playoffs...not once in the last 3 months did they give me any reason to think they're better than the Tigers and Twins. However, what's not acceptable is how these guys have just turned off the engine since this month started. If Ozzie didn't win the WS last year, there'd be a lot of people saying he deserves to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 What, exactly will booing accomplish? Â Kenny is already pissed with this team's performance. Hawk is finally starting to question Guillen and the players realize the position they put them in. Â Why stop with booing? Let's throw trash on the field and run after Neal Cotts after he gives up yet another 9th inning run. Let's show those Cub fans who means business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 01:55 AM) What, exactly will booing accomplish? Kenny is already pissed with this team's performance. Hawk is finally starting to question Guillen and the players realize the position they put them in.  Why stop with booing? Let's throw trash on the field and run after Neal Cotts after he gives up yet another 9th inning run. Let's show those Cub fans who means business!  All I said was that I'm surprised there's not more booing. Chicago fans seem to boo quite frequently, and everyone knows how frustrated our fans are right now. In a way, I'm proud of our fans for staying classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 You act like we're under .500 or something. Since early July, we are under .500. And the problem that I have with this team is that they haven't played well, or with fire and intensity in the second half. I'll give them credit for doing well in the first half, and then crapping their pants in the second half. I'm not pissed at the results; I'm pissed at the (lack of) effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijames Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 This team has officially quit. Â And that doesn't bode well for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Anyone catch the little story in the Herald about BA and Bonderman? Ozzie said BA didn't play because he had trouble in the past against Bonderman. I guess a reporter pointed out BA had never batted against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 11:54 AM) We're well under .500 since the ASB, and the intensity level has been pathetic down the stretch. I have no problem with this team not making the playoffs...not once in the last 3 months did they give me any reason to think they're better than the Tigers and Twins. However, what's not acceptable is how these guys have just turned off the engine since this month started. If Ozzie didn't win the WS last year, there'd be a lot of people saying he deserves to be fired. Realistically is a manager going to get fired if his team wins say 90 games in a season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Scott Boras is probably begging Crede to sit out the rest of the season. He's on the verge of going from a .300 hitter to a .275 hitter if he keeps struggling the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Does anyone else hate Uribe's bat toss every time he hits a can of corn to the OF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 01:57 AM) Realistically is a manager going to get fired if his team wins say 90 games in a season? Â If we didn't win the WS last year, and with all the crap off the field with Ozzie this season, there'd be a huge uproar in the media about how this team played like a bunch of dogs over the last two months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 08:58 PM) Scott Boras is probably begging Crede to sit out the rest of the season. He's on the verge of going from a .300 hitter to a .275 hitter if he keeps struggling the rest of the year. Â His last hit was a double on the 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 08:57 PM) Realistically is a manager going to get fired if his team wins say 90 games in a season? Gene LaMont did. Not only was he fired, he suffered the ultimate humiliation and was replaced by Bevington. The only way Ozzie gets fired is if his mouth gets him fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 01:58 AM) Does anyone else hate Uribe's bat toss every time he hits a can of corn to the OF? Â He's our best hitter right now...the ball's just not jumping in the cold weather tonight. Â QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 01:59 AM) Gene LaMont did. Not only was he fired, he suffered the ultimate humiliation and was replaced by Bevington. The only way Ozzie gets fired is if his mouth gets him fired. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxHawk1980 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Realistically is a manager going to get fired if his team wins say 90 games in a season? Probably not, but what a manager should be judged on is how well he did with the talent he was given. He was given 100+ win talent and this is what he's done with them. And it wasn't just bad luck. He makes bad lineups, bad decisions with starting pitchers, handles the bullpen poorly and makes other bad in-game decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 08:58 PM) Does anyone else hate Uribe's bat toss every time he hits a can of corn to the OF? Â Â Because in his mind he thinks he went Profundo. Â Nice to see another pile of dung shutting down our team. The only thing that this corpseball hopefully will acomplish is the final nail in the coffin for our poor hitting coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 I should correct myself. Lamont didn't win 90 his last full season because of the strike year, but he had the Sox on the verge of making the playoffs 2 straight years, something they had never done. Schueler brings in dogs like Sabo and Kruk and the Sox play bad and Geno is looking for work. He got a raw deal, so raw its probably why Leyland chose to manage the Marlins over the White Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Dont any of our hitters attempt to do anything but jack the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Uribe continues his impeccable defensive season. With Ichiro running, you have to make sure you get the out at 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 22, 2006 -> 12:01 PM) Probably not, but what a manager should be judged on is how well he did with the talent he was given. He was given 100+ win talent and this is what he's done with them. And it wasn't just bad luck. He makes bad lineups, bad decisions with starting pitchers, handles the bullpen poorly and makes other bad in-game decisions. I'd say it basically comes down to how we've pitched this season. We've got a better lineup this season, although guys like Pods and Uribe have regressed, while our SP's just haven't gotten the job done. Â If they had, then yeah we'd probably be a 100+ win team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Ugh...no reason to have MacDougal pitching back-to-back games right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Uribe is throwing some leather tonight. Â Â First he drops a ball that leads to the first run, then Uribe is so worried about bailing he misses the bag. Can he be benched already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 21, 2006 -> 09:03 PM) Uribe continues his impeccable defensive season. With Ichiro running, you have to make sure you get the out at 2nd. Thats more Paulie's fault than Uribe's, but just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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