That was a real disappointing loss, I was thinking to myself "No way he's making that" and then he does, man was I pissed. I'm really looking forward to this Saturdays game vs. the Pistons so the Bulls can crush them and shut the Detroit fans up.

Huh? If it were all about stats, Nash wouldn't have the two he has. Fact is Nash is having his best season yet. If the Suns win 55-60 games, he has a good chance to get it again.

 

Arenas also is much more important to his team than Nash is to his. And stats do factor in the decision they just arent the end all of it.

Arenas also is much more important to his team than Nash is to his. And stats do factor in the decision they just arent the end all of it.

It says alot when Barbossa takes the last second shot for the suns, and Arenas does for the Wiz.

It says alot when Barbossa takes the last second shot for the suns, and Arenas does for the Wiz.

John Paxson and Steve Kerr = MVP's. Booyeah!!

Arenas also is much more important to his team than Nash is to his. And stats do factor in the decision they just arent the end all of it.

 

Have you seen the Suns without Nash? They're awful. He makes that whole team go. Arenas does one thing real well: Score. He's a poor man's Iverson. And the stats argument is weak. Kobe and Lebron both averaged way more points and rebounds last year. Did that mean anything? Nash is shooting OVER 50% from the field AND from 3. Just think about that for a second. That's unheard of. He's damn near 90% from the line. Up over 20 PPG. Makes EVERYBODY around him a better player. Can you honestly say that about a shoot-happy chucker like Arenas? That's not even getting into the difference in the two conferences. The Suns would win 'atleast' 65 games in the pathetic east. The Wiz wouldn't crack .500 in the west.

 

It says alot when Barbossa takes the last second shot for the suns, and Arenas does for the Wiz.

 

That actually doesn't say a thing.

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That actually doesn't say a thing.

Sure it does, listen harder.

Have you seen the Suns without Nash? They're awful. He makes that whole team go. Arenas does one thing real well: Score. He's a poor man's Iverson. And the stats argument is weak. Kobe and Lebron both averaged way more points and rebounds last year. Did that mean anything? Nash is shooting OVER 50% from the field AND from 3. Just think about that for a second. That's unheard of. He's damn near 90% from the line. Up over 20 PPG. Makes EVERYBODY around him a better player. Can you honestly say that about a shoot-happy chucker like Arenas? That's not even getting into the difference in the two conferences. The Suns would win 'atleast' 65 games in the pathetic east. The Wiz wouldn't crack .500 in the west.

That actually doesn't say a thing.

 

Ok I just said earlier that stats arent everything but they do matter when two guys are in a close race. And no way in hell can you argue whose more important to his team. The Suns arent an elite team without Nash but probably still a playoff team in a tough west conference. The Wizards are in the lottery without Arenas.

LMAO at this;

 

:00.0 ORL - D. Howard made a 28-foot three-pointer from the top of the arc. Assist: T. Ariza

Arenas with 29 at the half against the Clips, interested to see what he ends up with.

Another bad loss for the Bulls tonight, hopefully they can take it to Detroit tomorrow.

They just got to beat Detroit tonight...

Detroit and the spurs have to be one the most annoying teams to watch play. They actively pursue getting fouled and whine the whole game for the calls.

Wallace and Deng had great games tonight. Good to see the Bulls come out and play tough against the Billups-less Pistons and get a solid W. 1/2 game back now.

Man I wish I saw this game, looked like a good one.

I hate the Bulls with a passion.

You're telling me.

 

These bastards cause the majority of wall holes. f***in drive me insane.

Damn I come home and not knowing they played today, we lost. Oh well all teams have slumps and we still have a good overall record.

I wouldn't care if they were a bad team. But for a while I thought they had the players and talent to hang with any team. I still believe that, but I'm starting to think they might be one impact player short. They just don't have the finishers on the club right now, and they still haven't figured out that you need to win on the road every so often.

I feel very strongly that Luol Deng is the guy. He could be a Carmelo type player for us IMO.

Dwight Howard's going 30-30 on someboy's ass soon.

Dwight Howard's going 30-30 on someboy's ass soon.

 

It'll probably be on Ben Wallace. I want his ass gone.

Deng is without question an All-Star, but he hasn't been there late in ballgames certain times this season. I love Deng, and IMO is far from the Bulls problems.

And here is why: Check out who takes a majority of the shots late in the game, its Ben Gordon. He not only takes the shots, but spend alot of the time dribbling to create the shot. I really think the ball needs to go through Deng on the wing, let him drive, shoot, or kick to the guards.

I wouldn't care if they were a bad team. But for a while I thought they had the players and talent to hang with any team. I still believe that, but I'm starting to think they might be one impact player short. They just don't have the finishers on the club right now, and they still haven't figured out that you need to win on the road every so often.

We took advantage of a soft schedule but have again had trouble closing out good teams. We should have a couple more wins and I am dissapointed we didn't get those wins because upper echelon teams do that and right now we are basically teetering between being a good team and an upper echelon team. We are in the East so obviously we have a chance, but I still don't consider us upper echelon until we consistently beat both good teams and light up on the bad ones.

We took advantage of a soft schedule but have again had trouble closing out good teams. We should have a couple more wins and I am dissapointed we didn't get those wins because upper echelon teams do that and right now we are basically teetering between being a good team and an upper echelon team. We are in the East so obviously we have a chance, but I still don't consider us upper echelon until we consistently beat both good teams and light up on the bad ones.

The real good news is...this team, for the next probably 4 or 5 years as currently constructed, should only get better, even as Ben Wallace gets older. The average age on the Bulls is still 25.6 years, and that's including the relatively ancient PJ Brown. There are still rookies developing, and more draft picks, and cap room/expiring contracts all available to the Bulls to get better. And even though the Bulls haven't yet taken that final step, it's damn encouraging to see the 2004 draft class suddenly this season stepping up and really looking good at what they do.

 

The good news for the Bulls is...if they want to be the best, there's time to learn. It's probably better that they learn now that they need to do more to close out a close game or beat a really good team than it is to learn that in the playoffs.

 

Now is when we start seeing what these players and Coach Skiles are made of.

Great point Balta. We have a couple fo good picks in the next draft as well, so that should only add to the talent level.

Get KG or Gasol already...

The Bulls somewhat remind me of the Heat before the Shaq trade. A bunch of good players, but not enough to win it all, then traded away a lot of good players for a dominant one.