Crede Update

[Bubba Philips]

/stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night

During negotians last fall I read that Joe's back surgery would be minor.... He could have easily recovered by even spring training. He opted for therapy. Now 1/4 of the season has expired and his back problems have reoccured. This problem will not go away and he will be free agent. A free agent with a bad back will not get the bucks that a free agent with a good back will receive. Fields is not the best fielder and presently is not hitting the best in AAA but I believe will do credible replacement in Crede's 15 day absense.. Edited May 21, 2007 by forrestg

[southsideirish71]

During negotians last fall I read that Joe's back surgery would be minor.... He could have easily recovered by even spring training. He opted for therapy. Now 1/4 of the season has expired and his back problems have reoccured. This problem will not go away and he will be free agent. A free agent with a bad back will not get the bucks that a free agent with a good back will receive. Fields is not the best fielder and presently is not hitting the best in AAA but I believe will do ok fielding and hitting wise once at the big show.....

 

If you are Joe Crede and you just came off your best season as a pro, you are a year out of Free Agency and your agent is Scott Boras so you are about to be a megabazillionare. Why again would you have anything done to your back. I mean really, even simple surgery isnt worth it.

 

My brother got hit on his motorcycle by a drunken driver. He has a messed up back, with degenerative disc issues. He gets epidural shots a few times a year, and he is a cop. He could go and get simple surgery, however for him the risks are too much. Right now, he deals with the pain, he gets his shots and he puts in his work. Why because he has 4 kids to provide for. Now he could have surgery, but what if something happens. Disability is not going to pay the bills, and he will be screwed.

 

If I was this close to making a bazillion dollars, I would probaby take a shot in the back now and then than messing up my money.

[LosMediasBlancas]

Ah the ole disc injury again.

I have a herniated disc in my lower back and sciatica that I've been dealing with for about 8 years. I've learned to live with and deal with the pain as best as I can. You learn how to move and how to not to move, how far you can bend over, how to put your shoes and socks on, etc. When I have a flare up, I go on oral steroids (not the Barry kind) for a bout 6 days, sometimes it helps. The next step for me would be the injections and finally surgery. After hearing so many horror stories, I think I'll live with and deal with the pain before I let them cut my back open.

Maybe some day they can replace discs with artificial ones, or maybe just kill the nerves that have the pressure on them.

I cannot imagine anyone playing sports professionally with the same injury.

Good luck Joe.

[joeynach]

Get Thome back and Crede goes down possbily to the DL. Man can we ever just get all our guys goin at once and actually see what this lineup can do. Everytime u remove an important piece of the puzzle the rest kinda shakes a little bit, like the game Jenga. Until every man on this team contributes TOGETHER they will continue to be a roller coaster of inconsistency. What is this just bad luck?

[Bubba Philips]

Ah the ole disc injury again.

I have a herniated disc in my lower back and sciatica that I've been dealing with for about 8 years. I've learned to live with and deal with the pain as best as I can. You learn how to move and how to not to move, how far you can bend over, how to put your shoes and socks on, etc. When I have a flare up, I go on oral steroids (not the Barry kind) for a bout 6 days, sometimes it helps. The next step for me would be the injections and finally surgery. After hearing so many horror stories, I think I'll live with and deal with the pain before I let them cut my back open.

Maybe some day they can replace discs with artificial ones, or maybe just kill the nerves that have the pressure on them.

I cannot imagine anyone playing sports professionally with the same injury.

Good luck Joe.

Stenum Hospital provides the most advanced Artificial Disc Replacement (ADR) procedures and implants available worldwide.

Here you can learn the truth about new improved ADR designs, Multi-Level Disc Replacement, Lumbar and Cervical ADR, and the truth about the risks involved with some implant products still in use today.

Disc Replacement, developed in Europe over 15 years ago, is now in use all over the world, and has all but eliminated the tragety of spinal fusion.

At Stenum Hospital it has been taken to the next level, high risk revission surgeries have all but been eliminated, and ADR is used to create multi-level solutions for both the lumbar and cervical spine. Even with fusion and adjacent to existing fusion!

At Stenum Hospital surgeons can go beyond simple disc replacement or fusion to create a complete multi-level spine solution which can include combinations of ADR, stabilization, fusion, and other treatments, if needed.

 

Are you confused about whether Disc Replacement is for you?

Maybe you have been told you are not a candidate for ADR,

that you need fusion, or nothing can be done!

 

Stenum offers free remote evaluations, so you can get the truth about your options. Click here or go to "Patient Area - Evaluation Form" above at any time to begin the simple evaluation process.

 

Due to regulatory restrictions, limitations of the approved products, and the inexperience of many surgeons, many patients will be exposed to unnecessary risk, get fusion surgery, or continue to suffer needlessly. Most, never knowing there are better options available, and surgeons with the experience and technology required to help them.

Many surgeons can only treat the L4-5 or L5-S1 of the lumbar spine, not L3-4, or the cervical spine. Some still think ADR is only a single level solution. This is far from the truth! Many multi-level Disc Replacements are performed with great success, and L3-4 or Cervical ADR is quite common.

You may be considering the Charite Disc. We have found through years of experience that this 3 piece sliding plastic core design, requires difficult and risky excess distraction of the vertebra for insertion, which may contribute to future instability by stretching the ligaments. In addition, prosthesis dislocation and plate subsidence has been reported in as high as 20% Charité patients. Maybe you are considering the ProDisc, studies report that 8.7% required revision surgery (studies and our surgeries required no revisions with Maverick). We find the ProDisc procedure much more invasive to the vertebra than the new designs.

Link to ADR Studies

 

The risks involved with these early implants, concerns about revisions and the lifespan of the plastic core, should be disclosed, and the improved implant designs available at Stenum should be considered.

See Maverick Lumbar Disc and Spinal Kinetics Cervical Disc

Tragically, patients with severe loss of disc space, previous surgeries, more than one level needed, and many other factors may be excluded from ADR surgery in error. Additionally, it is quite likely that single level ADR procedures are often performed when multi-level indications exist, resulting in poor results and risky second surgeries.

New implants, available at Stenum, offer improved design (reducing subsidence and dislocation), have increased stability, are easier to implant, and have no plastic core.

You need a surgeon with the experience and freedom to consider all the affected levels, all the treatment options, and create a total multi-level solution, if needed.

Nowhere else in the world does the incredible experience and state of the art technology exist, to successfully perform these complex procedures, other than at Stenum Hospital. Single level, multi-level, multi-device, lumbar and cervical ADR, are all available for you with a service level that will take care of all your needs while abroad. At Stenum Hospital we offer free evaluations and complete surgery packages.

At Stenum Hospital the doctors can create your spine solution from an extensive list of globally available device options. At Stenum, L3-4 ADR, Cervical ADR, and Multiple level ADR is common. Also, ADR at levels adjacent to previously fused levels, even multi device ADR plus fusion procedures, for more advanced multi-level cases, are done with great success.

ADR surgery requires a high level of experience, to get the correct diagnosis and surgery plan, avoid risks to vital organs, and carefully balance proper implant placement with the resulting impact of the procedure on the spine. You should only allow the most experienced spine specialists, with hundreds of abdominal approaches done, perform this complex procedure on you.

 

These leading surgeons are now treating international patients at Stenum Hospital. Over 400 Americans have come to Stenum for ADR!

 

To begin; complete the online form. Send images, patient data form, etc. to Stenum. In 2-3 weeks you will recieve your diagnosis, surgery plan, cost, and scheduling instructions. Click here to begin the evaluation process.

just to let you know the technology is here.

 

Stenum Hospital

Heilstaettenweg 1

Ganderkesee

Germany

27777

Phone: 011-49-4223-71335

Fax: (+49) (0) (4223) 714420

 

US Spokesperson

Jim Rider

866-544-8252

 

 

 

| diagnosis | testimonials | technology | locations | about stenum | patient area | contact us | site map |

[joeynach]

My dad had disc fusion surgery in his upper back vertebrate about 7 or 8 years ago. Its a very bad surgery to have and very serious. Now he is way way better than he was before, it got so bad he could hardly move his neck and hardly walk before he got the surgery. The scary part is permanent nerve damage. The discs need to be replaced because they continuously swell and move and push against the nerves causing pain and deadening the nerves. My dad was in so much pain he was forced to have the surgery and now has 2 titanium discs in his neck area. The surgery took about 6 months to recover. Since his recovery he is 200% better than before. His life had become unlivable, but since his recovery has has been 100% back to normal. For he Crede he still seems like he can cope, but surgery might be needed if the pain gets unmanageable. My dad suffered permanent numbness in a few spots on one of his hands from permanent scarring of nerve damage. I really hope Crede doesn't deal with same things. But the one thing I remember is that you can prevent the permanent numbness and nerve damage by having the discs replaced earlier rather than later.

[The Ginger Kid]

any update on crede?

[klaus kinski]

If he's out a couple days put Mack at third and Tererro in LF.

 

If DL-bring up Fields

[southsider2k5]

If he's out a couple days put Mack at third and Tererro in LF.

 

If DL-bring up Fields

 

If Joe hits the DL, they don't have any choice but Fields. They have to find someone who can play over there everyday, and neither Ozuna nor Mackowiak can do that.

[WCSox]

I imagine that most of Soxtalk would've gone absolutely ape$hit if KW dealt Crede back in December, especially with the season and a half that he had prior to then.

 

Even if KW gets significantly less for him than he could've gotten in December (or even if he gets nothing), the Sox owe Crede nothing after this year and KW can use that money elsewhere. That's not exactly a bad situation, especially with Mark and Ichiro on the FA market this Fall. I'd like to see KW let Dye walk as well and re-sign one of those two to a four- or five-year deal.

[RockRaines]

If Joe hits the DL, they don't have any choice but Fields. They have to find someone who can play over there everyday, and neither Ozuna nor Mackowiak can do that.

Joe was starting to hit, and his swing looked back on track, but at this point im thinking fields could come up and hit .200 like the rest of the team.

[witesoxfan]

I imagine that most of Soxtalk would've gone absolutely ape$hit if KW dealt Crede back in December, especially with the season and a half that he had prior to then.

 

Even if KW gets significantly less for him than he could've gotten in December (or even if he gets nothing), the Sox owe Crede nothing after this year and KW can use that money elsewhere. That's not exactly a bad situation, especially with Mark and Ichiro on the FA market this Fall. I'd like to see KW let Dye walk as well and re-sign one of those two to a four- or five-year deal.

 

It all depends upon the return, but you are probably right because the Sox weren't going to get a ton for Crede. The Sox hope was that he could put together another good season with a s***ty back and thus be able to prove to other teams that his back was something he could deal with. Obviously, it's not, and who knows really how long Crede has left in this game.

 

In the offseason, it sounded like Anaheim was really only willing to give up Figgins for him, and there were no other rumblings at all of others trading Crede. The whole Figgins and Santana for Crede and Garcia thing lasted a few days and never really started making sense from Anaheim's perspective at all. I truly do believe people would have been severely disappointed with a Crede trade.

[greg775]

I can't imagine his back ever getting better considering the number of swings he takes at pitches in BP

and in games as well as the bending over for grounders each and every day.

Like the Royals' mike Sweeney, he'll probably be injured off an on every year.

[whitesoxfan101]

I can't imagine his back ever getting better considering the number of swings he takes at pitches in BP

and in games as well as the bending over for grounders each and every day.

Like the Royals' mike Sweeney, he'll probably be injured off an on every year.

 

That's a good name drop actually. Sweeney has DH'd for a while now (and played 1st if he isn't) and his back is still awful. Crede isn't nearly the hitter Mike is, but we can't have somebody as injury prone as Sweeney (aka if your right about Crede, and I think you are, I think we have to make our move like we should have done last winter).