SoxFanForever Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 03:17 PM) OK, I officially hate John Paxson. The Bulls could have dealt much more and still had a very respectable team to put around Gasol. The Lakers could win the Championship THIS year with that team once Bynum gets back. They had the best record in the Western Conference before Bynum went down. Unless Paxson has his eye on someone else and doesn't want Gasol he should be ashamed. The Lakers just traded their junk for Gasol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 fire pax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 My prediction. The Lakers are going to trade Lamar Odom in a deal for Jason Kidd. Lakers have always wanted him, he's always wanted them. It's going to happen. C Bynum PF Gasol SF Walton SG Bryant PG Kidd It's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 How much is Odom making compared to Kidd though? I think they're pretty good where they are now, Odom sliding over to SF creates some serious mismatch problems. Fisher / Farmer is a pretty decent PG combo ATM, although obviously Kidd would make it better. And yes, I think if the Lakers can stay completely healthy, they'll win the West. Gasol and Bynum are going to be so hard to stop down low. And as for the trade, Memphis are desperate for expiring contracts, as shown by the 2 deals today. They need to rebuild. The Darko Milicic signing hasn't paid off, and they need runners if they're going to utilise Marc Iavaroni's offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 05:22 PM) How much is Odom making compared to Kidd though? Odom is at $13.2, Kidd is at 19.2, so the Lakers would need to include another $2.5 million worth of contracts to make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Told you, balta. pax just isn't getting it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 The trade sucks, but they could offer one thing that we could not. Salary cap relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 So as part of the deal does Marc Gasol have to wear #16 too? hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 06:04 PM) The trade sucks, but they could offer one thing that we could not. Salary cap relief. The Bulls could have done that if they wanted to. They could have re-upped with PJ Brown, who they still had the rights to, and used him as cap relief. Truehoop has an interview with things from the Memphis side. See if you buy it. Wallace has long been a refreshingly candidly interview. He says, for instance, that Marc Gasol "has emerged as a real force in European basketball ... that I believe would have been a first-round pick this year." On his three-headed point-guard situation with Mike Conley, Jr., Kyle Lowry, and Javaris Crittenton: "We're gonna lock these three guys in a room and see which two emerge, and then we'll trade somebody at some point." He also adds that the 2008 pick is top-three protected and the 2010 pick is top-six. TrueHoop reader Sean first let me know about this interview, and points out that if you believe what Wallace says about Marc Gasol, then essentially the Grizzlies got four first-rounders, and a mountain of cap space, for Pau Gasol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I could see the Lakers getting Kidd. But I also think the Mavs and Cavs are going to do a deal before the trade deadline, both want Kidd as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 06:53 PM) I could see the Lakers getting Kidd. But I also think the Mavs and Cavs are going to do a deal before the trade deadline, both want Kidd as well. The Mavs would actually be kinda silly to do that deal, because Devin Harris is pretty much putting up better numbers than Kidd already. The Cavs would be a fine fit...if they had anything to trade that the Nets might actually want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 08:53 PM) The Mavs would actually be kinda silly to do that deal, because Devin Harris is pretty much putting up better numbers than Kidd already. The Cavs would be a fine fit...if they had anything to trade that the Nets might actually want. Well I don't think the Mavs should trade for Kidd either, I'm just saying what I've heard. I do think the Mavs will try to make some move though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 08:28 PM) Well I don't think the Mavs should trade for Kidd either, I'm just saying what I've heard. I do think the Mavs will try to make some move though. What we really need is for the Mavs or Suns to freak out when they see this deal and then decide..."hmmm, we really need another defensive stopper inside so that we're not overwhelmed when we play the Lakers. Hey, the Bulls might want to move that Wallace dude, and man, 2 years ago he was the DPOY!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Anybody want Shaq? Come on, please. Ok fine, maybe you will take Pat Riley? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 10:30 PM) What we really need is for the Mavs or Suns to freak out when they see this deal and then decide..."hmmm, we really need another defensive stopper inside so that we're not overwhelmed when we play the Lakers. Hey, the Bulls might want to move that Wallace dude, and man, 2 years ago he was the DPOY!" haha yeah that'd help the Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metz Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 08:52 PM) On his three-headed point-guard situation with Mike Conley, Jr., Kyle Lowry, and Javaris Crittenton: "We're gonna lock these three guys in a room and see which two emerge, and then we'll trade somebody at some point." Please let it be Conley Jr. .. but I'm really gonna guess its going to be Lowry and Crittenton locked in a room and Conley watching to see who will be the second guy walking out with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 So does anyone else think Hedo Turkoglu deserved a bench spot on the All - Star Team? Granted his numbers aren't as good as say a Joe Johnson, but he plays on a winning team, and right now I don't know if there's many better players in the 4th quarter. He's single handledy won us a few games in those situations. And the Magic have won 7 of 8 and are getting back on track after a bit of a slump. Looking good things for 3rd in the East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Feb 1, 2008 -> 10:41 PM) Anybody want Shaq? Come on, please. Ok fine, maybe you will take Pat Riley? No? Some guy/kid calls the Score every day and states his case that the Bulls need to trade Wallace-Hinrich-Gordon-Deng for Shaq. Last time he called Boers and Bernstein they laughed him off the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 09:12 AM) Some guy/kid calls the Score every day and states his case that the Bulls need to trade Wallace-Hinrich-Gordon-Deng for Shaq. Last time he called Boers and Bernstein they laughed him off the air That is not a show to call into with outlandish suggestions.You better be educated,precise and have a well thought out statement for their show or they will let you know how much of an ass you are.Kind of like Soxtalk . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(shipps @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 10:15 AM) That is not a show to call into with outlandish suggestions.You better be educated,precise and have a well thought out statement for their show or they will let you know how much of an ass you are.Kind of like Soxtalk . I completely agree. If you are going to call that show to argue or make a remark, you better be ready for them or else they will come at you from an angle you never expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Feb 3, 2008 -> 04:26 AM) So does anyone else think Hedo Turkoglu deserved a bench spot on the All - Star Team? Granted his numbers aren't as good as say a Joe Johnson, but he plays on a winning team, and right now I don't know if there's many better players in the 4th quarter. He's single handledy won us a few games in those situations. And the Magic have won 7 of 8 and are getting back on track after a bit of a slump. Looking good things for 3rd in the East. Agreed, while we're at it. Jose Calderon also got snubbed, as well as Marcus Camby and Baron Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 3, 2008 Author Share Posted February 3, 2008 I always thought the NBA All Star teams could expand their rosters by 2 or so. Legit exhibition. Baron Davis is the biggest snub ever. If you add Hedo, who do you take off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 QUOTE(Brian @ Feb 4, 2008 -> 05:59 AM) I always thought the NBA All Star teams could expand their rosters by 2 or so. Legit exhibition. Baron Davis is the biggest snub ever. If you add Hedo, who do you take off? Butler or Jamison, probably the latter. Also palehosefan, there's a rumor of Hoopsworld about a Shaq for Diaw and Marion deal. Perhaps Robert Sarver is desperate to cut costs, or Phoenix has just grown tired of Marion and wants to unload Diaw's contract as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Phoenix needs to "man up" regarding Marion "wearing on them" or deal Marion for someone better than the albatross that is Shaq's contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 What happens if Shaq retires say at the end of this season, in terms of does that team still have to pay him, but does it still count against the cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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