whitesoxfan101 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:30 PM) Because those 3 are a pretty good 3 man rotation? Dempser's batting average against is phenomenal. At this point, the only way I see them not cruising to the NL Central is if Zambrano or Marmol get hurt. Dempster is going to head in the opposite direction soon, because he's got the Gavin Floyd batting average against going right now and that's impossible to uphold, especially since Dempster's stuff isn't outstanding. Good news for them is Ted Lilly's ERA is still comfortably above 5, so by the time Dempster comes back to earth, Lilly will probably be getting back towards the 4 even ERA neigborhood he belongs in. Their prognosis is good though, because even if Sheets miraculously stays healthy, the Brewers are going to have a hard time with Gallardo gone and no closer. The Cub pitching staff is VERY thin though, starting and relief, so if they were indeed to lose Zambrano or Marmol, it'd kill their staff. Edited May 15, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 It's still early, but the NL is even worse than I thought. Some of these offenses are just pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Jason Isringhausen just cost the Cardinals another game! The Brewers and Cards bullpen has cost them so many games already this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:00 PM) Jason Isringhausen just cost the Cardinals another game! The Brewers and Cards bullpen has cost them so many games already this season. They need to just cut him and trade for MacDougal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2008 -> 03:00 PM) Jason Isringhausen just cost the Cardinals another game! The Brewers and Cards bullpen has cost them so many games already this season. I knew their bullpens would be bad, but had no idea they'd be this epically awful. One of the VERY FEW things Hawk says that I agree with is the bullpen either is or will soon be the most important part of a team with how mediocre starting pitching is and pitch counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Ryan Dempster. What the hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 QUOTE (jackie hayes @ May 15, 2008 -> 08:34 PM) Ryan Dempster. What the hell. He has an above average slider...that's all you need in the NL. The rest of the NL Central got pounded today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2008 -> 04:37 PM) He has an above average slider...that's all you need in the NL. The rest of the NL Central got pounded today. His career whip is about 1.5, and it's never been much better than that. (A least not in a while.) All of a sudden he's Johan. It can't go on. I can't even believe it's gone on this long. I was literally agape when I looked at the box score. Unbefrigginlievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 QUOTE (jackie hayes @ May 15, 2008 -> 09:40 PM) His career whip is about 1.5, and it's never been much better than that. (A least not in a while.) All of a sudden he's Johan. It can't go on. I can't even believe it's gone on this long. I was literally agape when I looked at the box score. Unbefrigginlievable. He's also facing the Padres today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ May 15, 2008 -> 04:44 PM) He's also facing the Padres today. Good point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I think even I could get Khalil Greene out with a slider low and away. Jesus christ he looks worse than Crede did 5 years ago on breaking balls out of the zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 Well, I don't hear Cubs fans b****ing about Soriano anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ May 16, 2008 -> 01:32 PM) Well, I don't hear Cubs fans b****ing about Soriano anymore. no kidding ...good god i cant believe how many people wanted reed johnson to play everyday..... this schedule they play is just comically bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) gorzelanny has thrown 5.2 IP against the cubs this year.....17 runs go back to marist you bum Edited May 16, 2008 by daa84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 The Cubs strength and conditioning coaches are amazing! Soto lost 30 pounds between 2006 and 2007, and now he has more power than ever and hit more homers in 2007 than he did in the 3 seasons before that combined. Now, Gallagher has lost about 20 pounds, and he's gained about 3 mph on his fastball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 (edited) you know you suck when the opposing team's announcer claims that the loss of ryan doumit is "big loss" to your lineup after 2005 my hatred for the cubs certainly cooled, but i would say it took til about now for me to rebuild it...i just hate that organization and their fans so much to the point i cant even stomach listening to mark silverman (which is a real shame because i think tom waddle is the best radio personality in this town by far) Edited May 16, 2008 by daa84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ May 16, 2008 -> 06:44 PM) you know you suck when the opposing team's announcer claims that the loss of ryan doumit is "big loss" to your lineup after 2005 my hatred for the cubs certainly cooled, but i would say it took til about now for me to rebuild it...i just hate that organization and their fans so much to the point i cant even stomach listening to mark silverman (which is a real shame because i think tom waddle is the best radio personality in this town by far) I honestly heard a conversation on the radio today about whether or not Dempster or Lilly should pitch the 2nd game in the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthsideNorthsideFan Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 QUOTE (daa84 @ May 16, 2008 -> 12:44 PM) (which is a real shame because i think tom waddle is the best radio personality in this town by far) Mr. Cincinnati? Waddle's horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 QUOTE (SouthsideNorthsideFan @ May 16, 2008 -> 03:17 PM) Mr. Cincinnati? Waddle's horrible. i love him...but i can agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I think the thing that makes me not like the Cubs is their wannabe Jimmy Buffet song go cubs go. It's not music, it's noise. The fact that they're undefeated this year isn't alleviating that situation one bit. Only L's can stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 It was funny watching Mientxwhuiyb**** play 3B. He could barely throw the ball to 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 QUOTE (ChiSox35 @ May 16, 2008 -> 04:50 PM) I think the thing that makes me not like the Cubs is their wannabe Jimmy Buffet song go cubs go. It's not music, it's noise. Well the guy that wrote that song has been dead for 24 years, so it's a bit outdated to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I know this, but I don't know if "outdated" is the only adjective I'd attach to it. The White Sox fight song is outdated, and can hardly be considered good music, but in a novel sort of way. Both are meant to be fight songs, and in that regard one kicks the s*** out of the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Did Jason Bay drop a fly ball costing the Pirates a few runs? I missed the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ May 17, 2008 -> 06:15 PM) Soriano is RIPPING the ball. He owns the Pirates, just like the Cubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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