August 5, 200916 yr We could do the much better comparison. David Wright's rookie year (69 games) .293/.332/.857 Beckham thus far (52 games) .316/.376/.879 (and this includes his HORRENDOUS START) Plus, Gordon passes the eye-test. He's going to be one of the game's elite.
August 5, 200916 yr I'm surprised he hasn't been called "The New Hurt" or "The Little Hurt" yet. Could you imagine that kind of pressure?
August 5, 200916 yr I thought the interview would be funny, but yeah, that did look uncomfortable. I'm sure that's not something you'd want getting to your mother.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (rockren @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:42 PM) I'm surprised he hasn't been called "The New Hurt" That's what she said
August 5, 200916 yr We could do the much better comparison. David Wright's rookie year (69 games) .293/.332/.857 Beckham thus far (52 games) .316/.376/.879 (and this includes his HORRENDOUS START) Plus, Gordon passes the eye-test. He's going to be one of the game's elite. That 2008 draft was loaded with talent. Matusz looks real good, but with Beckham getting on the scene so fast and so successful, do you think other teams are kinda kicking themselves a little bit for not getting a ML-ready player out of college?
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:42 PM) Plus, Gordon passes the eye-test. He's going to be one of the game's elite. Yes, Yes. Don't forget the eye test.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (DanksFan @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) That 2008 draft was loaded with talent. Matusz looks real good, but with Beckham getting on the scene so fast and so successful, do you think other teams are kinda kicking themselves a little bit for not getting a ML-ready player out of college? Hard to say. I'm sure there is a little more pressure on those teams with Beckham doing so well, but I'm sure they're taking the route the Twins took when they took Mauer over Prior. They told their fan base to "wait and see". I'm surprised Buster Posey hasn't raced through the minors, but it won't take him long. Smoak is another good looking prospect coming out of the draft but he was taken AFTER Beckham and is hitting .220 in AAA. Edited August 5, 200916 yr by rockren
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:42 PM) We could do the much better comparison. David Wright's rookie year (69 games) .293/.332/.857 Beckham thus far (52 games) .316/.376/.879 (and this includes his HORRENDOUS START) Plus, Gordon passes the eye-test. He's going to be one of the game's elite. The awesomeness of Gordon Beckham cannot be measured with mere numbers. Much like describing a sunset, 'tis folly to even try.
August 5, 200916 yr Not that I'm a fan of comparisons either, but I think the best comparison has been, and still is Michael Young during his prime. Gordan could easily fall into a deviation where he has better years than young ever did or slightly worse. Lest this all still remains to be seen...
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 01:39 PM) Gordon has plate discipline. Jeff had absolutely none. The end. That.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 11:23 AM) ...check out Jeff Francouer's rookie stats and remember how people were so ga-ga over him too... .300/.336/.549/.885 70 GP, 272 AB, 14 HR, 20 2B, 1 3B, 45 RBI, 11BB it would seem like the lack of walks and reliance on homers made this predictable, but Francoeur was hitting .300 over 70 games with a ton of doubles...doesn't that sound familiar? His career line is currently a disappointing .266/.308/.424/.732 and the power numbers have been relatively down since 06 - just 82 career homers. So what happened to Jeff Francouer? Couldn't the same thing happen to Beckham? one sounds french, the other American. I'm going with the American.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 03:12 PM) one sounds french, the other American. I'm going with the American. AMERICA, F*** YEAH!
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 03:12 PM) one sounds french, the other American. I'm going with the American. Actually, one sounds French, one sounds English.... I'll still go with Beckham
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 01:17 PM) AMERICA, F*** YEAH! "Coming again, to save the mother f***ing day yeah!"
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (DanksFan @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) That 2008 draft was loaded with talent. Matusz looks real good, but with Beckham getting on the scene so fast and so successful, do you think other teams are kinda kicking themselves a little bit for not getting a ML-ready player out of college? I've said that for since beckham started tearing it up for the sox in the minors, i think the rays and reds made a HUGE mistake passing on him. Yes i realize the rays have bartlett at SS along with Brignac, and why did the reds take Alonso; they had Votto. Oh well all the better for us.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 03:43 PM) I will take Beckham and am dam glad he is hear for years to come! Are you Jack Handey?
August 5, 200916 yr One can just as easily look at the Joe Mauer trajectory after year one Fact is we just dont know yet, but it'll be something to watch for sure.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (rockren @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 12:52 PM) Yes, Yes. Don't forget the eye test. Its tough. Right now I'd say that most of that front-end of the class looks real good. The Reds clearly are kicking themselves for passing up on Smoak and Beckham for Alonso and the Marlins are doing the same for Kyle Skipworth.
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 01:43 PM) wow, tough crowd delete thread, I guess? I was about to pile on too, but you do have a point about getting too carried away because of a few months of baseball. The league could adjust somehow. Beckham sure seems like the real deal the way at such a young age, he is hitting everything thrown at him to all fields. We can hope/guess that he is not chemically enhanced because he really isn't that big and hasn't grown into his "man body". The Sox really do seem to have added a player to definitely get excited about an looks to have true superstar potential. The national media might even showcase him and his modest smile. He's clutch, his defense will improve wherever he ends up, he will develop more power, and learn the pitchers. Beckhamaina! can not be stopped.
August 5, 200916 yr I think the piling on was due to this board being filled with so many pessimists and for once we are all excited and optimistic about something Sox related.
August 5, 200916 yr Here’s a great article from Fangraphs about just how valuable Gordon Beckham has been to this team. In short, “Even with the rough start and some struggles learning third base, Beckham has been worth +1.2 wins in 53 games with the White Sox. Calling up the youngster after just two months in the minors has been one of the main reasons the White Sox are still in the AL Central race. If the White Sox fans weren’t sold on their first round pick a year ago, they are now - this kid is the real deal.” http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/b...it-like-beckham
August 5, 200916 yr QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 5, 2009 -> 02:23 PM) ...check out Jeff Francouer's rookie stats and remember how people were so ga-ga over him too... .300/.336/.549/.885 70 GP, 272 AB, 14 HR, 20 2B, 1 3B, 45 RBI, 11BB it would seem like the lack of walks and reliance on homers made this predictable, but Francoeur was hitting .300 over 70 games with a ton of doubles...doesn't that sound familiar? His career line is currently a disappointing .266/.308/.424/.732 and the power numbers have been relatively down since 06 - just 82 career homers. So what happened to Jeff Francouer? Couldn't the same thing happen to Beckham? Jeff Francouer and Gordon Beckham are radically different players, with radically different approaches at the plate. Two compare both players against each other would be absurd.
August 5, 200916 yr Much like a Trade Winds forum was created, we may have to create the Gordon Beckham Forum. All things Gordon Beckham, all the time.
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