Balta1701 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 QUOTE (The Baconator @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 07:57 PM) How about a couple Nats? I would love to see Nyjer Morgan or Josh Willingham. Anyone know what their contract situations look like? Willingham just finished his first arb-eligible year, I believe he has 2 more. Nyjer Morgan is still at least 1 year pre-arbitration, and would be a league minimum guy next season. Has less than 2 years of service time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 28, 2009 -> 11:16 PM) Willingham just finished his first arb-eligible year, I believe he has 2 more. Nyjer Morgan is still at least 1 year pre-arbitration, and would be a league minimum guy next season. Has less than 2 years of service time. Note to self: talk of the Nats is an apparent thread killer. Sorry to be the buzz kill, it's probably never a positive thing saying that we could benefit by raiding the Nats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Baseball America Chat - Jim Callis sees Brandon Wood as being traded this off season  Huge risk even with his potential, but the spect lover in me loves him for 3B. Sell low KW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Why would we trade him at his lowest possible value? Do you sell your stock when it has bottomed out and then buy other stock that has peaked? Swisher, Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 If we traded away Konerko, I wouldn't mind acquiring Atkins from the Rockies. He could play 1st, DH and play 3rd. He's fallen off a cliff recently and can't hit away from Coors Field, and before anyone gives me any of the "USCF is a hitter's park too" s***, we have to play 81 games on the road as well next year and he don't need another hole in the lineup. Â Â Â Looks like the Stock Market near the end of the Dubya era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 02:21 AM) Huge risk even with his potential, but the spect lover in me loves him for 3B. Sell low KW. Brandon Wood could be huge for us. Great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The guy i'd like to see KW acquire is Fernando Martinez from the Mets. Maybe Jenks in a package deal? The question is are the Mets still high on him. He struggled this year and still hasn't been able to stay healthy for an entire year but he has a world of potential. He sure would fit nicely into the lineup. Then i'd sign Hank Blalock to be the DH and re-sign Kotsay and Pods for the bench. The lienup would have a nice lefty/right balance and a nice blend of speed and power. Â LF-Quentin CF-Rios RF-Martinez 3B-Beckham SS-Ramirez 2B-Getz 1B-Konerko C-AJ DH-Blalock bench- Kotsay, Nix, Pods, Wise, Flowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 03:47 PM) The guy i'd like to see KW acquire is Fernando Martinez from the Mets. Maybe Jenks in a package deal? The question is are the Mets still high on him. He struggled this year and still hasn't been able to stay healthy for an entire year but he has a world of potential. He sure would fit nicely into the lineup. Then i'd sign Hank Blalock to be the DH and re-sign Kotsay and Pods for the bench. The lienup would have a nice lefty/right balance and a nice blend of speed and power. LF-Quentin CF-Rios RF-Martinez 3B-Beckham SS-Ramirez 2B-Getz 1B-Konerko C-AJ DH-Blalock bench- Kotsay, Nix, Pods, Wise, Flowers You cant just look at it from the Sox perspective, why the hell would the Mets want Jenks? They didnt want him last year for our asking price and they sure as hell wont trade on of their best young prospects for a bullpen arm that wont even be their closer (since ya know, they kinda brought in a guy for that during FA last year) and is getting expensive.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Check out Florida Marlins OF Chris Coghlan. This guy's stats are pretty good for being a rookie, yet I have heard nothing about him. Maybe he could be had. Does anybody know anything about him? Are his RBI totals low for a reason other than having to play on the Marlins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) Check out Florida Marlins OF Chris Coghlan. This guy's stats are pretty good for being a rookie, yet I have heard nothing about him. Maybe he could be had. Does anybody know anything about him? Are his RBI totals low for a reason other than having to play on the Marlins? They're not trading him for what we would conceivably offer. Â Jenks for Cody Ross IMO. Use the savings to sign a lefty setup man and make Thornton the closer. That way we fill a hole (RF) without adding to the payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Anyone know the Phillies org? Since Lidge has pretty much bit the big one...again...they might be interested in Bobby Jenks. But, I'm not familiar with their young prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 04:27 PM) You cant just look at it from the Sox perspective, why the hell would the Mets want Jenks? They didnt want him last year for our asking price and they sure as hell wont trade on of their best young prospects for a bullpen arm that wont even be their closer (since ya know, they kinda brought in a guy for that during FA last year) and is getting expensive. Agree, the Mets wouldn't make that deal. They have KRod and can bring Putz back for about $2M more than they'd have to pay Jenks. The Mets will probably let Putz go and will find a righty setup man on the open market for far less than Jenks will cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 04:35 PM) Anyone know the Phillies org? Since Lidge has pretty much bit the big one...again...they might be interested in Bobby Jenks. But, I'm not familiar with their young prospects. They're still stuck with Lidge's salary though ($24.5M guaranteed through 2011 including a 2012 buyout). If they look for a closer it will have to be of the league minimum variety as they'd be stupid to pay about $18.5M for one closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 If I were Kenny, I'd be dangling Jenks for Adam Dunn or Carl Crawford. Unfortunately, the Nats are such a mess that they probably wouldn't be interested in Bobby. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 05:35 PM) Jenks for Cody Ross IMO. Use the savings to sign a lefty setup man and make Thornton the closer. That way we fill a hole (RF) without adding to the payroll. Why not just aks for one of the Marlins LHP's in the deal too? It's probably a more worthy package anyway, and they're going to have to move both Taylor Tankersley and Renyel Pinto soon anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 05:41 PM) If I were Kenny, I'd be dangling Jenks for Adam Dunn or Carl Crawford. Unfortunately, the Nats are such a mess that they probably wouldn't be interested in Bobby. Neither of those players can be had for a closer. Especially, if said closer is Bobby Jenks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Every year the call goes out to trade half our team and let the other hal go to free agency or release them. I want stability. Spring Training comes around and every team seems to think they have solved all of their problems from the year before and for sure all teams are equal in the standings come opening day. We will probably make some trades and sign some mid to low tier free agents, but I can only think of one or two open positions other than the bullpen. Do we go with our own youngsters or try someone else? It's all wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Jenks has little value to a team like the Nats or Marlins so that won't happen. The Phils have the need but i've heard their payroll is bumping against its ceiling. Maybe if the win the Series again. He might get some looks from the Angels, given Fuentes' disappointing season. Dunno what to expect, but it will happen fast if it happens at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 02:46 PM) Neither of those players can be had for a closer. Especially, if said closer is Bobby Jenks. Â I imagine that Kenny would have to throw in another minor league player or two, but keep in mind that Crawford and Dunn only have one year left on their contracts. The Rays are also in the market for a closer. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 02:49 PM) Jenks has little value to a team like the Nats or Marlins so that won't happen. The Phils have the need but i've heard their payroll is bumping against its ceiling. Maybe if the win the Series again. He might get some looks from the Angels, given Fuentes' disappointing season. Dunno what to expect, but it will happen fast if it happens at all. Â I doubt that the Angels will want Jenks back, especially after they dumped him for alcohol and attitude problems. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The Marlins have some interesting players they'll probably try to move to save money or lose to free agency. Nick Johnson, the revitalized Kiko Calero, Cody Ross, Jeremy Hermida, maybe even...Dan Uggla??!?!! It would take prospects to get Ross or Uggla but maybe it could be looked into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 04:49 PM) Jenks has little value to a team like the Nats or Marlins so that won't happen. The Phils have the need but i've heard their payroll is bumping against its ceiling. Maybe if the win the Series again. He might get some looks from the Angels, given Fuentes' disappointing season. Dunno what to expect, but it will happen fast if it happens at all. The Marlins need a closer. Unlike the Nationals, the Marlins have a lot of talent on the field. Mike Stanton (one of the best prospects in all of baseball) is on his way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 04:52 PM) I doubt that the Angels will want Jenks back, especially after they dumped him for alcohol and attitude problems.  tru, tru  Truth be told the market isn't looking good for moving Jenksy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 04:54 PM) The Marlins have some interesting players they'll probably try to move to save money or lose to free agency. Nick Johnson, the revitalized Kiko Calero, Cody Ross, Jeremy Hermida, maybe even...Dan Uggla??!?!! It would take prospects to get Ross or Uggla but maybe it could be looked into? They were dangling Ross and Hermida for Matt Capps at the deadline. Bobby Jenks is about 1000X better than Matt Capps. Â Ross for Jenks is realistic IMO. Hermida could be non-tendered. Coughlan is there, as is Maybin who they haven't given up on yet, and then Stanton could be there as early as midseason. They'll be able to pay Jenks, especially if they deal Uggla this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 QUOTE (daggins @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 02:57 PM) tru, tru Truth be told the market isn't looking good for moving Jenksy.  It probably wasn't that bad before the calf injury. But that may have been the last straw.  The problem with Jenks is that it makes little sense to trade him for anything but a ML-ready player at this point. But I get the feeling that Kenny would have to package him with somebody like Flowers to make that happen. And I don't want to move Flowers, unless it's for somebody like Crawford or Dunn AND that they sign a contract extension as part of the deal. I just don't see all of that happening.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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