bandits25 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Just an idea. What do you think about trading for Brad Hawpe? What would you have to give up to get him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of a rude Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Why would they want to trade him? The rockies are a playoff team and he is singed cheaply for a guy who puts up a .900 OPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 He has trouble hitting lefties, according to reports. He is also remarkably bad in right field, worse than Dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) It would also allow them to play Dexter Fowler and Carlos Gonzalez every day, so I can see why they would want to trade him, given his massive defensive liability and 7.5 million salary. I wouldn't mind a trade for him, since you could hide his defense at DH, but a) it runs contrary to what KW seems to be planning for this team and b ) I don't know that the Sox have anything the Rocks want that badly. Hudson I guess. Edited October 14, 2009 by daggins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 No thanks on Hawpe for 7.5 id rather make a run at Nick Jonhson. If anyone from the rockies I think we need id make a run at Rafael Betancourt, hes a FA unless the rockies pick up a 5.4M option, probably wont happen. He could probably be signed for 2 years 5 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I would be very surprised if we picked up an OF who made much of a salary at all. My guess is if we do make a trade, it will be for a young guy with some upside that is still cheap but for whatever reason his current organization is down on him. I'll bet Kenny has tasked his scouts with finding the next Carlos Quentin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Oct 14, 2009 -> 03:20 AM) I would be very surprised if we picked up an OF who made much of a salary at all. My guess is if we do make a trade, it will be for a young guy with some upside that is still cheap but for whatever reason his current organization is down on him. I'll bet Kenny has tasked his scouts with finding the next Carlos Quentin. I could see Conor Jackson making his way over. Not really a power guy, but has a high OBP, and his three consecutive in ARZ when he was healthy his line was: .292 BA, .371 OBP, averaged 14 home runs, 71 rbi and 4 stolen bases. Can play LF and 1B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattZakrowski Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hawpe is dreadful in the field, but the Rockies value his bat too much to make him easily attainable most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 QUOTE (joeynach @ Oct 14, 2009 -> 02:56 AM) No thanks on Hawpe for 7.5 id rather make a run at Nick Jonhson. If anyone from the rockies I think we need id make a run at Rafael Betancourt, hes a FA unless the rockies pick up a 5.4M option, probably wont happen. He could probably be signed for 2 years 5 mil. Nick Johnson makes sense as a low-cost OBP machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hawpe would only make sense as a DH. He's actually one of those guys that is not a product of Coors Field. His home and away splits are strikingly similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Hawpe is or will be clearly on the market, and I'm quite certain the Rockies will be willing to pick up part of his $7.5 MM salary. He will be sitting on the bench next year if he stays. He is not a dreadful fielder as an earlier poster said. He can cover ground adequately and has a way above average arm. I don't know why he tailed off so much in last half of this season, but that will decrease the price for him. It won't take much, and someone will jump on it. Rockies have a solid team, and I don't think they want to keep him around as a 4th or 5th outfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (joeynach @ Oct 14, 2009 -> 01:56 AM) No thanks on Hawpe for 7.5 id rather make a run at Nick Jonhson. If anyone from the rockies I think we need id make a run at Rafael Betancourt, hes a FA unless the rockies pick up a 5.4M option, probably wont happen. He could probably be signed for 2 years 5 mil. I do not want the human rain delay on this team. Ed Farmer might quit if we sign Betancourt. Edited October 15, 2009 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 14, 2009 -> 08:40 PM) He is not a dreadful fielder as an earlier poster said. He can cover ground adequately and has a way above average arm. Hawpe is nothing to shake a stick at, if you are trying to field a team full of defensive incomptence. After all, hawpe has recorded one of the worst fielding seasons in the past couple of decades. Sounds like a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simba43 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 trade for hawpe or even atkins is a waste of roster space . I thought everyone here wants to win ? Also this nick johnson idea yeah great onbase guy who is hurt 80 percent of the time . Oh by the way we got onbase pretty good last year but we dont drive them in we need more rbi type guys i cant even count how many times we had 2 on or bases loaded with one or no outs and didnt score . COME ON PEOPLE if were going to trade lets go for a guy like adrian gonzales he is a gret onbase guy plus he will drive in runs . IF NOT HIM HOW ABOUT ADAM LIND ? Or russell branyan , adam dunn , hunter pence are all good possibilitys . We need a to go after gonzales the way we did M. CABRERA but detriot out bid us but that was a statement trade for detroit . NOW we need to make one . GO FOR KENNY go after gonzales we and you wont regret it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simba43 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I rather resign pods for 2 years if it would help us get Adrian Gonzales . And believe me im no fan of Pods . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Oct 14, 2009 -> 07:28 AM) I could see Conor Jackson making his way over. Not really a power guy, but has a high OBP, and his three consecutive in ARZ when he was healthy his line was: .292 BA, .371 OBP, averaged 14 home runs, 71 rbi and 4 stolen bases. Can play LF and 1B. I like this idea. Versatile. Inexpensive. Low risk. Young. Put him in the middle of our lineup and he could probably drive in 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHizzle85 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 QUOTE (1977 sox fan @ Oct 15, 2009 -> 04:43 AM) trade for hawpe or even atkins is a waste of roster space . I thought everyone here wants to win ? Also this nick johnson idea yeah great onbase guy who is hurt 80 percent of the time . Oh by the way we got onbase pretty good last year but we dont drive them in we need more rbi type guys i cant even count how many times we had 2 on or bases loaded with one or no outs and didnt score . COME ON PEOPLE if were going to trade lets go for a guy like adrian gonzales he is a gret onbase guy plus he will drive in runs . IF NOT HIM HOW ABOUT ADAM LIND ? Or russell branyan , adam dunn , hunter pence are all good possibilitys . We need a to go after gonzales the way we did M. CABRERA but detriot out bid us but that was a statement trade for detroit . NOW we need to make one . GO FOR KENNY go after gonzales we and you wont regret it . Dude, someone's gotta teach you punctuation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Oct 14, 2009 -> 02:28 AM) I could see Conor Jackson making his way over. Not really a power guy, but has a high OBP, and his three consecutive in ARZ when he was healthy his line was: .292 BA, .371 OBP, averaged 14 home runs, 71 rbi and 4 stolen bases. Can play LF and 1B. I made a post about this in the Nick Johnson thread: What would you think if KW dipped into that Diamondback well again and went after Conor Jackson? He could platoon with Kotsay (if he comes back) and could be the eventual replacement for Paulie after next year. He's not a stellar defensive player by any means which would make an attractive younger DH. The DBags will have to tender him a contract by mid-December (if they do, he likely will make something close to $2.5 million)...or Jackson will become a free agent. Kind of goes with the going young motif. He's coming off Valley Fever but should be fine this next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 No reason to trade for another platoon OF'er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of a rude Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 No reason to trade for another platoon OF'er a .900 OPS player isn't good enough to DH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 15, 2009 -> 04:28 PM) I made a post about this in the Nick Johnson thread: He's coming off Valley Fever but should be fine this next year. Heh, DBags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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