ThunderBolt Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 10:14 PM) So why didn't they win it all last year? Or the year before that or the year before that or the year before that? As, I recall last year they didn’t have Teixeira, Sabathia, Burnett and Swish. There's no strategy to what the Yankee do, their resources insure competition. Money doesn't necessarily buy championships, but (if managed somewhat competently) they insure almost totally that a team will be in the position to do so. Buying the best players is neither graceful, nor particularly shocking or impressive, it simply works. It doesn't make what the Yankee do right, and it doesn't make me fond of seeing them win year in and year out. I think it's possible to win with limited resources, I just think there's an inherent disadvantage therein. Edited November 5, 2009 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 07:22 PM) As, I recall last year they didn’t have Teixeira, Sabathia, Burnett and Swish. There’s no strategy to what the Yankee do, their resources insure competition. Money doesn’t necessarily buy championships, but (if managed somewhat competently) they insure almost totally that a team will be in the position to do so. Buying the best players is neither graceful, nor particularly shocking or impressive, it simply works. It doesn’t male what the Yankee do right, and it doesn’t make me fond of seeing them win year in and year out. I think it’s possible to win with limited resources, I just think there’s an inherent disadvantage therein. It's also worth noting that only 1 team that was outside the top 13 or so salaries in baseball make the playoffs this year, the Twins. (Also, the Cardinals were at 13 and they added a lot of salary mid-season so I'm not sure if that's counted in the total I looked at). OUt of the bottom 17 teams in salary, only the Twins, and only in the weakest division in MLB, made the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 09:22 PM) As, I recall last year they didn’t have Teixeira, Sabathia, Burnett and Swish. There’s no strategy to what the Yankee do, their resources insure competition. Money doesn’t necessarily buy championships, but (if managed somewhat competently) they insure almost totally that a team will be in the position to do so. Buying the best players is neither graceful, nor particularly shocking or impressive, it simply works. It doesn’t male what the Yankee do right, and it doesn’t make me fond of seeing them win year in and year out. I think it’s possible to win with limited resources, I just think there’s an inherent disadvantage therein. All that's fine. But with all the whining about their payroll (not singling you out. I'm talking everybody in general), you would think they were going on their 9th straight title. I just find it annoying to continually complain about their payroll. They do what they do because they can. It's not against the rules. How many times just on this board has KW been referred to as 'cheap'? Yet we all hate the Yankees because they spend more than everybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Except for that first outing in the ALDS Marte has been money in the postseason for the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChrisSamsa Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 This year's Yankees team has played very solid baseball, and they've actually been enjoyable to watch. I don't care what their payroll is, they're the best team in baseball from roster slot one to roster spot twenty-five, and I respect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 07:30 PM) All that's fine. But with all the whining about their payroll (not singling you out. I'm talking everybody in general), you would think they were going on their 9th straight title. I just find it annoying to continually complain about their payroll. They do what they do because they can. It's not against the rules. How many times just on this board has KW been referred to as 'cheap'? Yet we all hate the Yankees because they spend more than everybody else. Saying its not against the rules doesn't really make sense when we're mostly suggesting that we want the rules changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 So, think Swish will be placing a thank you call to KW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 09:30 PM) All that's fine. But with all the whining about their payroll (not singling you out. I'm talking everybody in general), you would think they were going on their 9th straight title. I just find it annoying to continually complain about their payroll. They do what they do because they can. It's not against the rules. How many times just on this board has KW been referred to as 'cheap'? Yet we all hate the Yankees because they spend more than everybody else. You do realize that the Yankees resetting the curve for salaries has an adverse affect on the rest of baseball as they try to figure out how to keep up, and lose their players in the meantime, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 09:28 PM) It's also worth noting that only 1 team that was outside the top 13 or so salaries in baseball make the playoffs this year, the Twins. (Also, the Cardinals were at 13 and they added a lot of salary mid-season so I'm not sure if that's counted in the total I looked at). OUt of the bottom 17 teams in salary, only the Twins, and only in the weakest division in MLB, made the playoffs. Of the top 8 payrolls in the league, only 3 missed the playoffs, the Tigers collapsed and still made it to game 163, the Mets lost like their top 5 players to injury, and the Cubs were incompetent and thought Milton Bradley was the key to a ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 10:30 PM) All that's fine. But with all the whining about their payroll (not singling you out. I'm talking everybody in general), you would think they were going on their 9th straight title. I just find it annoying to continually complain about their payroll. They do what they do because they can. It's not against the rules. How many times just on this board has KW been referred to as 'cheap'? Yet we all hate the Yankees because they spend more than everybody else. This is just how baseball is. The Yankees win about once every four years. This is in over a century of play, so nobody should be surprised. It's just how the game is. We've been fortunate that it's taken them 10 years this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 wow Damaso...where was that in the 05 ALDS??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 09:55 PM) You do realize that the Yankees resetting the curve for salaries has an adverse affect on the rest of baseball as they try to figure out how to keep up, and lose their players in the meantime, right? And the Yankees should care about that why? Would you care if the White Sox were the ones with the 200+ million dollar payroll? I don't have a problem with the Yankees. My beef is with baseball (I.E. we need a cap). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 09:53 PM) Saying its not against the rules doesn't really make sense when we're mostly suggesting that we want the rules changed. Again, that's fine. But the system is in place now. The Yankees make a s***load of loot and put it right back into the team. Isn't that what any fan of any team would want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 08:27 PM) Again, that's fine. But the system is in place now. The Yankees make a s***load of loot and put it right back into the team. Isn't that what any fan of any team would want? The question is...is that the best thing for the sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 10:26 PM) And the Yankees should care about that why? Would you care if the White Sox were the ones with the 200+ million dollar payroll? I don't have a problem with the Yankees. My beef is with baseball (I.E. we need a cap). The Yankees don't care about that, but about 29 other teams do. That is the entire point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 10:27 PM) Again, that's fine. But the system is in place now. The Yankees make a s***load of loot and put it right back into the team. Isn't that what any fan of any team would want? Actually the probably don't. I would bet they are the most profitable franchise in American sports right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 3 more outs and the Yanks will be on top of the world again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Bring on the Winter Meetings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 f*** the Yankees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 4, 2009 -> 08:47 PM) Bring on the Winter Meetings! AKA...the world champion Yankees sign______ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Victory Laps are so stupid. For some reason I have grown to dislike Teixeira a lot during this postseason. Something about him wants me to punch him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Payroll aside, props to the Yankees. They were by far the best team in baseball from about mid June until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 QUOTE (zenryan @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 12:01 AM) For some reason I have grown to dislike Teixeira a lot during this postseason. Something about him wants me to punch him. Might have something to do with him being a greedy bastard. Even removing the Yankee's stint, Tex and Boras make quite the money-grabbing team. So, i'm listening to Your Love trying to recapture some baseball good feelings. Pleased to say it's working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Matsui.. what a way to up your cash demands in FA if you wanted to still play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I still think that was a boring series. The only feel good moment for me is Rivera. He's so durable, consistent. It's fun to watch him pitch. Just like starters can learn from watching Buehrle work, relievers could learn a lot watching Rivera. He's a god. I hope the Phillies are done for a while; no need to see them in the WS again unless we are playing and beating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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