balfanman Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,4709685.story I thought that this article in the Tribune had some good information. My question is (from someone who has never seen him play) "How close to the majors is Jordan Danks?" Maybe his wrist injury held him back quite a bit last season. Edited November 3, 2009 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 12:03 PM) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-091102-cubs-white-sox-afl,0,4709685.story I thought that this article in the Tribune had some good information. My question is (from someone who has never seen him play) "How close to the majors is Jordan Danks?" Maybe his wrist injury held him back quite a bit last season. Balfan, the above link doesn't work. Can you try and fix it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,4709685.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I'd say he has a chance with a strong ST. Especially with the Sox claiming they want to get more atheltic and more speed and defense. He fits the mold perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,4709685.story Thank you Ozzie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 QUOTE (Cali @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 10:39 AM) I'd say he has a chance with a strong ST. Especially with the Sox claiming they want to get more atheltic and more speed and defense. He fits the mold perfectly. He's not ready yet, I'm 100% convinced. You can tell from his stat line last year; not just the struggles in the 2nd half, but he had a glaring weakness the whole year; his strikeout total was way too high. His single-A average and slugging were great because he put up a .400+ BABIP. Now, I know all the caveats that go with that; he was likely hitting a lot of balls hard, but reality is, when you move upwards, the pitchers get better at finding ways to push that down. Even the best big league hitters are no where near that. When he got to AA, yes he was probably dealing with a lot of injuries, but his BABIP also dropped to more human levels, and suddenly he was in a gigantic slump. He simply needs to put the ball in play more. He struck out 102 times in 402 ab's this year. In a full season, those are Ryan Howard/Adam Dunn type numbers, and D2 the mighty Danks isn't going to hit 40 home runs for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 01:54 PM) He's not ready yet, I'm 100% convinced. I actually think he's ready, only because you don't think he's ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Danks has about a zero chance of making the team this spring. That being said, if he has a good summer next year, I could see him getting a cup of coffee in September. That is the soonest I see him having a chance at making it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Danks is about two years away. I think he's going to repeat AA this year. I'd put Viciedo's ETA before his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Again, I want to emphasize that I do not know, I'm just asking. Wouldn't the fact that he was originally drafted in 2005, but instead of going pro chose to have 3 years of college ball, be the equivalent of having a couple more seasons of minor league training. I would also think that since the Sox did send him to Arizona, where he is performing fairly well, means that they think that he's a little closer than 2 years away. Didn't he have a fairly significant wrist injury that probably greatly affected his numbers this past season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 01:37 PM) Again, I want to emphasize that I do not know, I'm just asking. Wouldn't the fact that he was originally drafted in 2005, but instead of going pro chose to have 3 years of college ball, be the equivalent of having a couple more seasons of minor league training. I would also think that since the Sox did send him to Arizona, where he is performing fairly well, means that they think that he's a little closer than 2 years away. Didn't he have a fairly significant wrist injury that probably greatly affected his numbers this past season? You are correct on all of these. However, that doesn't rid us of the biggest issue, the strikeouts. He was striking out on the same pace in A+ as in AA, so we can't blame that on the wrist I think 2k5 is right; it's plausible he could get a look in September of next year if he has a solid year at AA. But he needs to make a lot more contact of MLB pitching is going to eat him alive and he'll never hit over .250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 05:09 PM) You are correct on all of these. However, that doesn't rid us of the biggest issue, the strikeouts. He was striking out on the same pace in A+ as in AA, so we can't blame that on the wrist I think 2k5 is right; it's plausible he could get a look in September of next year if he has a solid year at AA. But he needs to make a lot more contact of MLB pitching is going to eat him alive and he'll never hit over .250. Obviously this depends on any off season acquisitions, but if he is ready defensively, why not bring him up and bat him ninth, he can't hit any worse than Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Gotta love that he is leading the AFL in OBP. Very nice to see against minor league all-star type competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 07:54 PM) He's not ready yet, I'm 100% convinced. You can tell from his stat line last year; not just the struggles in the 2nd half, but he had a glaring weakness the whole year; his strikeout total was way too high. His single-A average and slugging were great because he put up a .400+ BABIP. Now, I know all the caveats that go with that; he was likely hitting a lot of balls hard, but reality is, when you move upwards, the pitchers get better at finding ways to push that down. Even the best big league hitters are no where near that. When he got to AA, yes he was probably dealing with a lot of injuries, but his BABIP also dropped to more human levels, and suddenly he was in a gigantic slump. He simply needs to put the ball in play more. He struck out 102 times in 402 ab's this year. In a full season, those are Ryan Howard/Adam Dunn type numbers, and D2 the mighty Danks isn't going to hit 40 home runs for us. At least a year away and maybe 2 wouldn't you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Alot of people didn't think Beckham was ready either. I'm not saying Danks is ready, I'm just saying. I think it takes a great spring training and take that into June for us to consider bringing him up. And even then he'd have to have a spot available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 QUOTE (striker62704 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 06:06 PM) Alot of people didn't think Beckham was ready either. I'm not saying Danks is ready, I'm just saying. I think it takes a great spring training and take that into June for us to consider bringing him up. And even then he'd have to have a spot available. There is a big gap between their numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 06:13 PM) There is a big gap between their numbers. Before Danks' injury, not really. That being said, Jordan clearly isn't going to be on the 2010 opening day roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 05:02 PM) Before Danks' injury, not really. That being said, Jordan clearly isn't going to be on the 2010 opening day roster Beckham wasn't striking out 40% of the times he came to the plate. That's a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 07:18 PM) Beckham wasn't striking out 40% of the times he came to the plate. That's a huge difference. 40%? Really? We're talking less than 23% here. He's not that far from a reasonable K rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 07:18 PM) Beckham wasn't striking out 40% of the times he came to the plate. That's a huge difference. Danks only struck out 25% of the time in Birmingham... still too much but improving. Edited November 4, 2009 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 12:43 PM) Danks has about a zero chance of making the team this spring. That being said, if he has a good summer next year, I could see him getting a cup of coffee in September. That is the soonest I see him having a chance at making it. Buddy Bell has said that he's ready defensively and very close to ready offensively. Now I'm not saying the Sox will go with him, but from what has been quoted, the brass believes he's knocking on the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 For comparison's sake Josh Fields first time at Bham he went just under 30%, and Borchard was at about 30.5%. Jordan was at 25.7%. Better numbers comparatively, but he needs to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 07:47 PM) Buddy Bell has said that he's ready defensively and very close to ready offensively. Now I'm not saying the Sox will go with him, but from what has been quoted, the brass believes he's knocking on the door. Like I said, with a solid season in the minors, I think we see him in September. He still has some significant work to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 05:52 PM) Like I said, with a solid season in the minors, I think we see him in September. He still has some significant work to do. BUT....they're going to keep that in mind when signing FA's this offseason to fill that OF spot, that I'll bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 08:24 PM) BUT....they're going to keep that in mind when signing FA's this offseason to fill that OF spot, that I'll bet. That sounds nothing like Kenny Williams to me. If he thinks it will make the team better today, he will do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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