December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 04:46 PM) Pretentious asshole? You guys must see him on TV or something. I just read his stuff and think it's good ... and free. By this logic, are all beat reporters good?
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 04:46 PM) Pretentious asshole? You guys must see him on TV or something. I just read his stuff and think it's good ... and free. Did you miss when Cowley figuratively (without reason) s*** on Jason and everybody that does such a fine job over at SN?
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 02:19 PM) It's interesting how many guys we have that have something to prove next year. Putz is coming off surgery on his throwing arm. Yikes. But the Sox have medical experts and must know what they are doing. As fans we can only hope for the best but wouldn't we be expecting a lot to see him pitch before June after surgery?? He's another very tall pitcher. Has he had control problems? GO SOX! Kenny indicated he's 100%. He's already been throwing off the mound for teams. Barring any set-backs, he'll be ready to rock and roll right when training camp starts. How effective he is and whether the injuries hinder him or come back could possibly happen though.
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 04:40 PM) Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah (sp) to all! I love the holidays. No love for Kwanzaa?! Go to hell.
December 11, 200916 yr By this logic, are all beat reporters good? I guess not. I don't live there and see him on TV or hear him on radio. I just read it. He gives us stories and lots of them and stuff to talk about. I don't understand the problem, but that's just me. I like the guy at the Trib as well. From afar it does seem the Cowley fellow churns out a bit more all year round. Of course the Trib writer is probably taking a well deserved vacation after a long season. Those guys get vacation time built up, too, I bet. It just seems so personal; that people hate this Cowley for some reason. And a few of you have pointed out the reasons of which I thank you. No love for Kwanzaa?! Go to hell. Oops never heard of that one. Sorry. Edited December 11, 200916 yr by greg775
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 03:04 PM) I guess not. I don't live there and see him on TV or hear him on radio. I just read it. He gives us stories and lots of them and stuff to talk about. I don't understand the problem, but that's just me. I like the guy at the Trib as well. From afar it does seem the Cowley fellow churns out a bit more all year round. Of course the Trib writer is probably taking a well deserved vacation after a long season. Those guys get vacation time built up, too, I bet. It just seems so personal; that people hate this Cowley for some reason. And a few of you have pointed out the reasons of which I thank you. http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/soxnet/200...ys-attacks.html Read that link
December 11, 200916 yr Love this deal !! Wonder if Jenks will be dealt now. . (Hmmm we still need a leadoff hitter. .)
December 11, 200916 yr Then some site called SoxNet.net - written in the basement of a trekkie turned blogger - jumps on the pile late with no sources. Oops. If our guys are offended by this, then I may have to change my opinion of Joe. I did not realize this was goin on. I back the good people here over him! Justin and Mario are awesome. Were our guys offended by this or just happy to get the mention in his twitter. It's not like it was in the actual newspaper. My bad if Justin et all were offended by Joe's twitters. I support the guys on here more than Joe!!! Edited December 11, 200916 yr by greg775
December 11, 200916 yr Cowley is terrible, but he did get the scoop on this one, he was right, and deserves some credit for it.
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 06:11 PM) Cowley is terrible, but he did get the scoop on this one, he was right, and deserves some credit for it. Agreed. Still, RockRaines' source was jsut as good as his, just sayin.
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 06:10 PM) Oops. If our guys are offended by this, then I may have to change my opinion of Joe. I did not realize this was goin on. I back the good people here over him! Justin and Mario are awesome. Were our guys offended by this or just happy to get the mention in his twitter. It's not like it was in the actual newspaper. My bad if Justin et all were offended by Joe's twitters. I support the guys on here more than Joe!!! Wasnt jsut the twitter though, he blasted Soxnet on the radio too. He used print (in email form), radio, and internet to take unneeded and unfair blows to Soxnet, just to feed his ego. If he blasted Soxnet on the radio and then after Jason talked to him if he had apologized I would have said okay, but he resorts to insults to cover that fact that he didnt have a source on it himself.
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 06:02 PM) No love for Kwanzaa?! Go to hell. And what about Festivas?
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 04:19 PM) It's interesting how many guys we have that have something to prove next year. Putz is coming off surgery on his throwing arm. Yikes. But the Sox have medical experts and must know what they are doing. As fans we can only hope for the best but wouldn't we be expecting a lot to see him pitch before June after surgery?? He's another very tall pitcher. Has he had control problems? GO SOX! From my understanding he should be ready to throw by spring training if not sooner.
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 05:17 PM) From my understanding he should be ready to throw by spring training if not sooner. He better be. I dont want him coming into spring training looking like that guy on your avatar.
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 05:04 PM) I guess not. I don't live there and see him on TV or hear him on radio. I just read it. He gives us stories and lots of them and stuff to talk about. I don't understand the problem, but that's just me. I like the guy at the Trib as well. From afar it does seem the Cowley fellow churns out a bit more all year round. Of course the Trib writer is probably taking a well deserved vacation after a long season. Those guys get vacation time built up, too, I bet. It just seems so personal; that people hate this Cowley for some reason. And a few of you have pointed out the reasons of which I thank you. No love for Kwanzaa?! Go to hell. Oops never heard of that one. Sorry. That's because he made it personal, just like the D-bag who he is trying to replicate.
December 11, 200916 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 05:10 PM) Oops. If our guys are offended by this, then I may have to change my opinion of Joe. I did not realize this was goin on. I back the good people here over him! Justin and Mario are awesome. Were our guys offended by this or just happy to get the mention in his twitter. It's not like it was in the actual newspaper. My bad if Justin et all were offended by Joe's twitters. I support the guys on here more than Joe!!! If there is one thing I can say about the guys who do the grunt work behind Soxtalk, it is that they do it because they like it. You don't hear people from this site trying to spam all over the place to try to get our name out there. Our guys don't call the radio shows just so that they can say Soxnet on the air. We don't seek out publicity. If we get some, great. But we are NOT media whores. We report our stuff in our network, and if anyone picks up on it, fine.
December 12, 200916 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 05:40 PM) That's because he made it personal, just like the D-bag who he is trying to replicate. Be the better man and let it go. If people have something personal to take up with Joe, then I think that needs to be done somewhere other than SoxTalk. There are about 30 pages in the Adrian Gonzalez thread and about four more in this thread about what people think of Joe. If people think Joe Cowley, a beat reporter, did something that nearly prevented the White Sox from signing Putz, then they're giving him far too much credit.
December 12, 200916 yr I like this move so much i want to take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant.
December 12, 200916 yr QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 02:31 PM) Interesting that one of Putz's incentive clauses is "games finished". Looks like the writing in is on the wall for Jenks. It would seem to me that you are correct, but then again he could be a very cheap solution as a set up guy who takes Dotel's spot and if he regains his form of 2006-7 can take Linebrink's spot. I still think Linebrink comes up big in 2010, and I like Pena better than most. It does seem funny his salary almost doubles if he becomes a closer. It seems to me they have given him the impression he will get a shot. Who knows.
December 12, 200916 yr QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 08:00 PM) I like this move so much i want to take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant. Me too Thunder, me too.
December 12, 200916 yr QUOTE (chunk23 @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 02:31 PM) Interesting that one of Putz's incentive clauses is "games finished". Looks like the writing in is on the wall for Jenks. Not really that interesting unless you think the White Sox are eager to pay incentive money.
December 12, 200916 yr QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Dec 11, 2009 -> 09:16 PM) Not really that interesting unless you think the White Sox are eager to pay incentive money. The incentive makes me think it's less likely we move Jenks, actually.
December 12, 200916 yr Here are the incentive clauses in Scott Linebrink's contract, according to Cot's Baseball Contracts... award bonuses: $0.1M each for MVP, Cy Young, Rolaids, WS MVP; $75,000 for LCS MVP; $50,000 for TSN All Star; $25,000 each for Gold Glove, All Star starter; $15,000 All Star selection MVP? All Star starter? Even further, Matt Guerrier was never, ever, ever, ever considered the Twins closer last year, and still "finished" 15 games. Putz's agent is looking for the most money he can get, and if Putz even becomes a setup man, it's likely he's going to "finish" quite a few games. The finished games clause has absolutely nothing to do with Jenks. If anything, it's probably $10K per game that he finishes up until 30 games finished.
December 12, 200916 yr I like the signing, although I wonder how cash-strapped KW is going to be now when it comes to addressing the team's hitting needs. A random question to all: How much better do you think 2010 JJ Putz will be than 2010 Octavio Dotel (wherever he ends up)?
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