December 14, 200916 yr The Phils have been mentioned as one of the teams that could use an upgrade at closer. They have Lidge, who has great stuff and a proven track record of successes and failures. He has a great arm and if the Sox are able to get a solid prospect and cash from the Phils, it could turn into a solid deal. What does everyone else think? And I note that the Phils would have to agree to send a s***-ton of money the Sox way, since Lidge makes like 11.5M a year through 2011. Or lets hypothetically say the Sox dealt Jenks and Linebrink to the Phils for Lidge, cash, and a good prospect. Sox get a few more million that can go to signing a DH, get a good prospect, and still have a guy that has all of the stuff to be a great closer.
December 14, 200916 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 04:51 PM) The Phils have been mentioned as one of the teams that could use an upgrade at closer. They have Lidge, who has great stuff and a proven track record of successes and failures. He has a great arm and if the Sox are able to get a solid prospect and cash from the Phils, it could turn into a solid deal. What does everyone else think? And I note that the Phils would have to agree to send a s***-ton of money the Sox way, since Lidge makes like 11.5M a year through 2011. Or lets hypothetically say the Sox dealt Jenks and Linebrink to the Phils for Lidge, cash, and a good prospect. Sox get a few more million that can go to signing a DH, get a good prospect, and still have a guy that has all of the stuff to be a great closer. little too risky for me. if lidge falls flat on his face (Which has a high probability) the sox pen would all of a sudden become quite thin. Edited December 14, 200916 yr by soxfan3530
December 14, 200916 yr If I am Kenny, I better have one more domino ready to fall(big bat) right after I pull this trade off.
December 14, 200916 yr LOL when I think of Lidge, I think of McCarver saying that the bad taste of that Albert Pujols NLCS bomb is just about gone... "I don't think that taste is there." is what he said. Then Scotty Pods takes him deep to walk him off. McCarver: "The taste is back again".... HAHAHAHA classic!
December 14, 200916 yr Brad Lidge is guaranteed $24.5M over the next 2 season and Bobby Jenks only $7.5M-$8M. How do you make that at all palatable? I'm taking my chances with Jenks.
December 14, 200916 yr Living near Philly and having watched him pitch over the past 2 seasons...... You. Do. Not. Want. Lidge. Too many injuries, has major confindence/mental issues. Edited December 14, 200916 yr by AWhiteSoxinNJ
December 14, 200916 yr It would have to be like $10m and a SOLID prospect. And only because I think Thornton can close and I'd like to get rid of Linebrink's contract.
December 14, 200916 yr Author QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 03:07 PM) Brad Lidge is guaranteed $24.5M over the next 2 season and Bobby Jenks only $7.5M-$8M. How do you make that at all palatable? I'm taking my chances with Jenks. Ya, I figured there is no way to make it work, but since Levine said the Phils might be interested I figured they'd have to deal Lidge and eat up significant cash. No way I can see the Phils eating enough cash to make that a valuable deal.
December 14, 200916 yr I wouldn't want Lidge. I watched him pitch in the WS and I think Jenks still has better stuff. The only way I would consider it is if we got a prospect in return that we used to make a bigger splash, Adrian Gonzalez.
December 14, 200916 yr Barring a problem with that screw in his elbow, I'll bet Jenks has one of his best years in 2010.
December 14, 200916 yr Author QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 03:52 PM) Barring a problem with that screw in his elbow, I'll bet Jenks has one of his best years in 2010. I actually agree with you. I think Jenks is going to have a tremendous season.
December 15, 200916 yr heavens no... but if we could trade jenks for a legit, mlb ready hitting prospect, sign me up.
December 15, 200916 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 05:53 PM) I actually agree with you. I think Jenks is going to have a tremendous season. Why? Is he finally dedicated to taking care of his body? Will he reverse the trend of blowing key saves against inferior lineups? Will he cease to have "medical issues" such as "kidney stones"?
December 15, 200916 yr QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 03:07 PM) Brad Lidge is guaranteed $24.5M over the next 2 season and Bobby Jenks only $7.5M-$8M. Not to mention that Jenks' arbitration-eligible status and the fact that he didn't completely suck this season makes him more valuable on the trade market. I'll take Jenks and Linebrink over Lidge and cash any day.
December 15, 200916 yr QUOTE (SockMe @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 07:36 PM) is this something that is being discussed between the two teams? Not at all. I think Jason was just bored.
December 15, 200916 yr QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 07:51 PM) Not at all. I think Jason was just bored. o ok
December 15, 200916 yr Lidge did amazing things for the White Sox in 2005. Because of that he will always hold a special spot in my heart. Let's bring him back to The Cell...in the visitor's bullpen...
December 15, 200916 yr Definitely do not want Lidge. God, no. Wouldn't even deal Linebrink for him + cash. Edited December 15, 200916 yr by monomach
December 15, 200916 yr QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 14, 2009 -> 06:11 PM) Why? Is he finally dedicated to taking care of his body? Will he reverse the trend of blowing key saves against inferior lineups? Will he cease to have "medical issues" such as "kidney stones"? Reverse the trend? He had a bad year, but was still a so-so closer even in that phase. Look at his career - he's up and down, like most any reliever or closer. Also, look at his monthly splits - its not like he was collapsing, he had two bad stints, and actually finished statistically strong when he was on the field. And the minor injuries was a new thing too. They aren't long term injuries either, so everything about his career right now points to him improving in 2010. Nothing is every known for sure, but looking at his career and track record, he looks to me like a guy likely to improve a lot in 2010.
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