Steve9347 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) Take it with a monster grain of salt. link •Andruw Jones is said to be in the best shape he's been in for a decade. This could wind up being the best $500,000 the White Sox ever spent. Edited January 20, 2010 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 For Jones, there's more to it than being in shape, he has some serious technical things with his swing (see his 2005 season). Although that'd be a great sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 For $500k, I am not worried at all. If he sucks, cut him. If we get something out of him, we are golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Good to hear, but there seems to be a glut of positive spin Sox stories out there. Danks circulation problem...check. Linebrink ready to go...check. Jones in great shape (no need for another DH)...check. Rios's swing is perfect after five swings...check. It's all good for now, and I'm looking forward to this season, but I'm not buying into all of the hype. I'll believe the hype when translates to wins in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 11:37 AM) Good to hear, but there seems to be a glut of positive spin Sox stories out there. Danks circulation problem...check. Linebrink ready to go...check. Jones in great shape (no need for another DH)...check. Rios's swing is perfect after five swings...check. It's all good for now, and I'm looking forward to this season, but I'm not buying into all of the hype. I'll believe the hype when translates to wins in April. Yeah it's the pre-spring training hype machine. Everyone is in great shape and feel the best they have ever felt when aren't going through the grind of a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 If you prefer doom & gloom, just read Soxtalk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 the more i think about the jones deal, the more i actually really like it ...the guy had a OPS+ of an even 100 last year, and when he played the OFh last year he had UZR/15 of 24.9 (granted small sample size) obviously his 07 and 08 campaigns were horrendous, but the guy clearly has potential to be above average with the bat if in fact he is in shape, and probably still above average in the field (especially given the fact that our ballpark is about the easiest OF to play)....an OF of pierre (whos defense is above average in LF despite the arm) Jones and Rios (with quentin DHing) would catch everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I love fluff stories this time of year. Everything is great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YonderLaroche Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) The guy won a gold glove 96-2007, his last full season.. hasn't hit above .222 since 07 either, but I can see .245, 35 HR, 90 RBI, and good defense in the outfield if given a chance to play a full season in the cell.. So far, that looks like KW's plan unless there's an injury or Greg Walkers advice finally puts his average under .200... then I can see him going after Thome. Edited January 20, 2010 by b-Rye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 If Jones really is going to start for this team he needs to be playing the OF full-time with Q as the DH. We cannot waste Jones defensive advantages just to get Mark Kotsay ab's in the name of "flexibility." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan3530 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:33 AM) For $500k, I am not worried at all. If he sucks, cut him. If we get something out of him, we are golden. We can't cut him! He's our DH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 12:53 PM) If Jones really is going to start for this team he needs to be playing the OF full-time with Q as the DH. We cannot waste Jones defensive advantages just to get Mark Kotsay ab's in the name of "flexibility." Was thinking the same thing yesterday. My guess is he and Q will platoon a lot in RF with the majority of the starts in the field going to Jones eventually. This assumes no permanent or full-time DH is acquired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 11:29 AM) For Jones, there's more to it than being in shape, he has some serious technical things with his swing (see his 2005 season). Although that'd be a great sign. This is what I was thinking. I remember his issues being pretty clearly illustrated on ESPN and Baseball tonite. When they broke down his swing it was easy to see why he was failing. Something in his mechanics had changed from when he was a productive to player to someone struggling to hit their weight. IIRC it had to do with his body mechanics and weight transfer. When they showed his before/after it was obvious whatever he was doing was creating a long loopy big swing and motion which was causing him to struggle to catch up to 90 MPH fastballs any anything breaking low & away in the zone. I am much more concerned with his swing mechanics at this point that his physical weight. Though being in shape does help at some point, but hey John Kruk had lucrative baseball career as a dough boy. Edited January 20, 2010 by joeynach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I dont give a s*** what you guys say with all the negative talk...I like to hear stuff like that other than reports that he was seen to be even 20 pounds more fat than he was already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 11:37 AM) Good to hear, but there seems to be a glut of positive spin Sox stories out there. Danks circulation problem...check. Linebrink ready to go...check. Jones in great shape (no need for another DH)...check. Rios's swing is perfect after five swings...check. It's all good for now, and I'm looking forward to this season, but I'm not buying into all of the hype. I'll believe the hype when translates to wins in April. And... CQ looks like TCQ from 2008 (after Walker's visit in Oct) Teahen a 3B fixture Peavy is hungry Buehrle is strengthening his arm Destiny of coming to Sox finally realized for Pierre Looks like they are going down the list of players: I'm buying all of the hype...cause I'm an optimist unless, I hear a story like: "Lillibridge putting it all together for 2010" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 So what would you all rather hear, nothing? or... - Jones said he's fat and should have retired but why do that when he can sit on a bench and make $500,000 - Greg Walker watched Rios's swing and said we are f#$%^ed. - Jake Peavy said he misses the San Diego weather and wants to go home. He also thinks the Padres pitchers will out hit the White Sox DH platoon in 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 As to the positive articles, if you want something to worry about, think about the guys you aren't hearing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) As to the positive articles, if you want something to worry about, think about the guys you aren't hearing about. The biggest one of note...the big guy at the back end of the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:33 AM) For $500k, I am not worried at all. If he sucks, cut him. If we get something out of him, we are golden. QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:37 AM) Good to hear, but there seems to be a glut of positive spin Sox stories out there. Danks circulation problem...check. Linebrink ready to go...check. Jones in great shape (no need for another DH)...check. Rios's swing is perfect after five swings...check. It's all good for now, and I'm looking forward to this season, but I'm not buying into all of the hype. I'll believe the hype when translates to wins in April. QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:47 AM) If you prefer doom & gloom, just read Soxtalk! Yep, and I was just thinking at least Bobby hasn't been arrested . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 The decade just started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 03:04 PM) The decade just started. All the more reason to be the first one to write it off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 03:05 PM) All the more reason to be the first one to write it off! Now you sound like a Cub fan ... at least a realistic Cub fan. Wait! That's an oxymoron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:05 PM) All the more reason to be the first one to write it off! "Do you even no what a write off is?" "No, but they do, and they're the ones that write it off" Name that show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 QUOTE (striker @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 03:32 PM) "Do you even no what a write off is?" "No, but they do, and they're the ones that write it off" Name that show. Seinfeld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I would not be surprised one bit if Andruw Jones was in the running for the comeback player of the year award. Think about it.... what if the guy can just somehow hit about .275 (wishful thinking I know) and 35 HRs and shows flashes of his former defensive prowess? I wonder if CQ will be pissed if he has to become the full time DH... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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