If 2nd fiddle means being the most important cog then I agree. Nothing against Rose. But there's guys out there that can do what he does. There's nobody out there that can do what Dwight does.

He'd be 2nd fiddle to Derrick in this city, whether he'd be the most important cog on the team, well that's definitely up for debate but there's no question that he'd be the 2nd "star" on his own team and that might be the reason he doesn't want to be here, who knows.

Judging from his comments, Chauncey's almost undoubtedly going to the Heat. He wants no part of being claimed and he's letting it be known.

 

That'd be just wonderful.

 

C: Anthony/?

PF: Bosh/Haslem

SF: LeBron/Battier

SG: Wade/Miller

PG: Billups/Chalmers

 

Obviously C still sucks. And Miller might be gone. But they're deeper and better. But RIP is on the way.

 

 

He'd be 2nd fiddle to Derrick in this city, whether he'd be the most important cog on the team, well that's definitely up for debate but there's no question that he'd be the 2nd "star" on his own team and that might be the reason he doesn't want to be here, who knows.

 

If you mean it's Rose's city in the way it was Wade's city and that any superstar that comes in by default becomes the "2nd" star, I guess I can agree with that definition.

Judging from his comments, Chauncey's almost undoubtedly going to the Heat. He wants no part of being claimed and he's letting it be known.

I don't know if it's the lockout, the stars still teaming up, or the heat being loaded, but i'm about 1/3 as excited right now about the NBA as I was last year. Last year was just anger, this move last year would have pissed me off. Now I'm just meh.

If you mean it's Rose's city in the way it was Wade's city and that any superstar that comes in by default becomes the "2nd" star, I guess I can agree with that definition.

The Bulls would still be considered Rose's team by the media, Derrick would still be getting more endorsement deals and he'd still be seen as the face of the franchise, stuff like that could absolutely matter to a guy like Dwight who seems to like to be the life of the party.

Dwight's not even close to a top 10 ten center all time.

The Bulls would still be considered Rose's team by the media, Derrick would still be getting more endorsement deals and he'd still be seen as the face of the franchise, stuff like that could absolutely matter to a guy like Dwight who seems to like to be the life of the party.

 

Oh, I totally agree with you there. Little guys have always been easier to sell than big guys. Shaq was an exception. 2nd fiddle to me has always meant, like, the clear-cut second best player on a team. Like Pippen, Kobe (when Shaq was there) or even a Pau Gasol. That's what I was arguing.

Judging from his comments, Chauncey's almost undoubtedly going to the Heat. He wants no part of being claimed and he's letting it be known.

I'd like to see a team claim him just to find out how serious he is about leaving 14 million on the table.

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Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard

Initially, Hou part of deal was same - Scola, Martin & pick going to NO & Pau to Hou. Now, at NBA/NO's request, Hou sending out more players

 

Eventually one would think this will turn into rape for NO.

lol. Sounds like the Rockets want the Lakers to get Paul more than the Lakers want to get Paul.

@KBergCBS

Ken Berger

Chris Paul update: Deal tweaks appear to be minor to preserve #Lakers' shot at Dwight Howard. #NBA bit.ly/u15jFz

34 minutes ago via Plume

 

@JoshuaBRobbins

Josh Robbins

#Orlando #Magic GM Otis Smith tells @OrlandoSentinel that Dwight Howard has requested a trade: ht.ly/7Vl9D

8 minutes ago via HootSuite

 

But hey, Rips on his way, right?

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Adrian Wojnarowski

Dwight Howard has requested that the Orlando Magic trade him to the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

 

This is just silliness.

Just shut the league down when CP3 and Dwight wind up on LA.

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard

Initially, Hou part of deal was same - Scola, Martin & pick going to NO & Pau to Hou. Now, at NBA/NO's request, Hou sending out more players

 

Eventually one would think this will turn into rape for NO.

Because adding a bunch of old players and tons of salary is just what the Hornets need to be competitive. Were being duped, everyone knows LA wins and that's just the way they like it.

Just shut the league down when CP3 and Dwight wind up on LA.

The restructured deal leaves Odom as a chip for Dwight. Not that a rebuilding Orlando team would want him, but he could be useful in a three team deal.

The restructured deal leaves Odom as a chip for Dwight. Not that a rebuilding Orlando team would want him, but he could be useful in a three team deal.

I can't figure out how any of this setup would be a good deal for Orlando.

It's hard to get good value when your superstar demands a trade.

It's hard to get good value when your superstar demands a trade.

Then the last thing you should do is take on a big contract coming back.

That's why Odom would go to a third team. The Nets probably have the best pieces* and that's where he wants to go. That's apparently where he'll end up unless tampering charges come into play.

 

*Even though the rumored package is meeeeehhh.

And we just signed Big Baby to be our next center! Hooray!

 

Not a good day to be a Magic fan, and the city of Orlando would be hurting right now, it's Deja Vu with the Shaq situation again.

 

Certain people don't rate Dwight at a superstar because he can't shoot FT's, and his offensive game isn't as polished as Shaq's. But last season he began to shoot Timmy D's bank shot with quite a bit of success, and you watch the Nets instantly turn into a top 5 defensive team in the NBA now just because of Howard.

 

Lopez + 2 picks for Howard and Hedo is probably going to be the deal.

 

Whether we have enough cap room to sign a max free agent next off-season now such as Kevin Love, I'm not sure, but if the Big Baby deal means we don't, I'll be very, very annoyed.

J-Rich is off the market now also, 25/4 with Orlando.

 

This just confuses me even more, I guess Otis thinks we can still contend even without Dwight somehow.

J-Rich is off the market now also, 25/4 with Orlando.

 

This just confuses me even more, I guess Otis thinks we can still contend even without Dwight somehow.

The Bulls obviously didn't offer. That 5 mill difference is nothing given team situations.

The Bulls obviously didn't offer. That 5 mill difference is nothing given team situations.

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Can the bulls actually offer more than $20 mil over 4? They just have the MLE right?

 

He might have taken less, but I don't think the Bulls could match that.

I'd like to see a team claim him just to find out how serious he is about leaving 14 million on the table.

I agree some owner/gm needs check the players and call their bluff

The season hasn't even started and I can already say f*** the NBA. Go on lockout again, because nothing got fixed.

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Can the bulls actually offer more than $20 mil over 4? They just have the MLE right?

 

He might have taken less, but I don't think the Bulls could match that.

Hence my "that $5 mill difference is nothing".

 

25/4

20/4

 

I'm pretty confident he'd take the Bulls' offer had it been made. Rip, here we come.