ThunderBolt Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 How has Walker not been scapegoated yet? I'm not saying he deserves all the blame, but i would have thought someone would have taken the fall for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 03:10 AM) How has Walker not been scapegoated yet? I'm not saying he deserves all the blame, but i would have thought someone would have taken the fall for this. Hopefully it's a package deal and they're all gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I adore Hawk. It's amazing how often i forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 The Roy Fosse story was awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:10 PM) How has Walker not been scapegoated yet? I'm not saying he deserves all the blame, but i would have thought someone would have taken the fall for this. Bringing in new coaches isn't the answer. You need different players. See Mazzone, Leo and Jaramillo, Rudy as a couple examples of guys given a ton of money sent to bad situations. See what happens when the talent level isn't up to par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 9, 2010 -> 03:15 AM) Bringing in new coaches isn't the answer. You need different players. See Mazzone, Leo and Jaramillo, Rudy as a couple examples of guys given a ton of money sent to bad situations. See what happens when the talent level isn't up to par. No Orioles pitching coach will be good when their pitchers have to face the AL East teams so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:10 PM) The Hawk stuff was awesome tonight, BTW Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 11:15 PM) Bringing in new coaches isn't the answer. You need different players. See Mazzone, Leo and Jaramillo, Rudy as a couple examples of guys given a ton of money sent to bad situations. See what happens when the talent level isn't up to par. I'm just amazed that no one has been given the boot yet. We've been terrible nearly all year and the only player we lost was Lucy. I'm not saying that a change would make us better, i'm just saying that i expected one to have been made at this point. Edited June 9, 2010 by Thunderbolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Is it true we're on pace to win around 65 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:16 PM) No Orioles pitching coach will be good when their pitchers have to face the AL East teams so often. If they had good pitchers they would be OK. I think the Cubs have scored fewer runs than the White Sox this year. They went through 2 hitting coaches last year, give Rudy big money and they have trouble scoring runs. If Leo had Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine in their primes with him in Baltimore they wouldn't have fired him with a year left on his contract. Edited June 9, 2010 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 68-94 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:17 PM) Is it true we're on pace to win around 65 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:17 PM) I'm just amazed that no one has been given the boot yet. We've been terrible nearly all year and the only player we lost was Lucy. I'm not saying that a change would make us better, i'm just saying that i expected one to have been made at this point. I totally agree the lack of change is disgraceful, but if you're not going to change the players, nothing is going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:17 PM) I'm just amazed that no one has been given the boot yet. We've been terrible nearly all year and the only player we lost was Lucy. I'm not saying that a change would make us better, i'm just saying that i expected one to have been made at this point. Cooper probably deserves to lose his job more than Walker. Freddy has become the ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:19 PM) 68-94 That 68-94 could look a lot worse if we start trading away veterans.. then again, it could improve too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (T R U @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 10:26 PM) That 68-94 could look a lot worse if we start trading away veterans.. then again, it could improve too Well there's almost no way the final record is going to matter since we won't make the playoff. Might as well find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 I said before the season that Rios was going to be Walker's big project. It turns out that not only is Alex our best player, but he's one of the better position players all-around in the league. IMO Walker is fine, even though he's going to look even worse once Kenny starts shipping guys out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Jun 8, 2010 -> 11:24 PM) I said before the season that Rios was going to be Walker's big project. It turns out that not only is Alex our best player, but he's one of the better position players all-around in the league. IMO Walker is fine, even though he's going to look even worse once Kenny starts shipping guys out. And Walker was the one who completely reworked Rios' swing.....in one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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