Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:22 PM) Pedro Martinez? Convince him to change his mind about not pitching in 2010 Pedro hasn't thrown a pitch of relevance in 9 months. He's 38 and would probably need 6 weeks just to build his arm back up. No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:22 PM) @JimBowdenXMFOX- "deal not done...but all indications are that Adam Dunn is heading to the southside of Chicago....waiting on the Nationals now to close it" "approval delay in Washington's onion layered process but looks like Dunner is heading to a pennant race" It's a good thing I'm sitting down. If this happens, the Sox may have gave up Hudson and that other guy for Dunn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) Dunn for who soxObama. You were the first to report interest in Jackson as well. Edited July 30, 2010 by Frank_Thomas35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I could see Kenny getting Livan/Dunn. The Sox dont really need a pitcher long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (G&T @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:19 PM) Apparently Coop said on the Score that Hudson has a high maintenance delivery (or something to that effect). I did not hear him say that but Mack and Spiegal mentioned it. I'd say that is true from what I saw of him. The first thing I noticed about Hudson last year was that he looks like he'll blow out his elbow, he puts a lot of stress on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:12 AM) Problem is Jackson's not a clear upgrade. If it was Oswalt, then I'd agree with you. Agreed. If you're going to deal a high-tier pitching prospect, you need to get somebody like Oswalt or Lee in return. Jackson may be a slight upgrade over Hudson for this year, but not enough to be the type of impact player that would help a team win a pennant. And the Sox lose several years of Hudson as a #3 or #4 for dirt-cheap. If Kenny doesn't flip Jackson for a better player, this will go down as one of his worst trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:22 PM) Chris Young? Unless I missed something, Chris Young isn't a pitcher! Guess I should have made that part a bit more clear. I'm just saying, we (SoxTalk armchair GMs) get so attached to prospects that may never see the light of day, that we over-value them to the point of comedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Rios, Konerko, Dunn and Quentin.....love the middle of the lineup...love the balance Dunn Brings...love the make-up he'll bring less than a minute ago via web Bowden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:22 PM) Chris Young? he's had spasms of goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:25 PM) Unless I missed something, Chris Young isn't a pitcher! Guess I should have made that part a bit more clear. I'm just saying, we (SoxTalk armchair GMs) get so attached to prospects that may never see the light of day, that we over-value them to the point of comedy. Isn't there a Chris Young pitcher too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:24 PM) I could see Kenny getting Livan/Dunn. The Sox dont really need a pitcher long term. If this happened then the Sox would lead all of baseball with the amount of garbage chucked up towards the plate w/ Freddy, Mark, and Livan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:24 PM) It's a good thing I'm sitting down. If this happens, the Sox may have gave up Hudson and that other guy for Dunn? Thats the thing that gets me....people are fuming about losing Hudson for Jackson, who we'd control for another year+, but are all quite ok to give him up for Dunn, a 3 month strikeout machine rental... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Jim Bowden's talking like the Dunn deal is done. JimBowdenXMFOX Rios, Konerko, Dunn and Quentin.....love the middle of the lineup...love the balance Dunn Brings...love the make-up he'll bring 4 minutes ago via web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Hudson wasnt going to be a 3-4 on the Sox unless Danks, Peavy, Floyd or MB are going some where. If they can keep those 4 guys, they only need to get a Freddy type player every year to complete the staff. Hudson at 23 may never have had more value. If they can turn Jackson into a hitter/pitcher combo it should make the Sox that much better this year, while they still have the same flexibility next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 (edited) Well, I'm not surprised that the White Sox are throwing in the towel on Hudson. The only question is what becomes of Jackson, and who replaces him in the rotation...there has to be one of those Lilly/4th/5th starter types out on the market that KW already has put together a deal for to replace another starter. And Ozzie has always preferred veterans down the stretch in pennant drives (with Brandon McCarthy being one of the few exceptions). I think he'd prefer Paul Byrd to Hudson. Edited July 30, 2010 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:26 PM) Rios, Konerko, Dunn and Quentin.....love the middle of the lineup...love the balance Dunn Brings...love the make-up he'll bring less than a minute ago via web Bowden Now THAT'S a man crush. Keep it in your pants, Bowden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 What people also forget is we have the Waiver period as well to pick up an additional arm. Worst case scenario if we don't get another arm is that Harrell has a couple of spot starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Buzzkill: Tim Kurkjian of ESPN reporting that the Nationals told him directly they are NOT trading Dunn to the White Sox for Edwin Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 Jim Bowden's talking like the Dunn deal is done. JimBowdenXMFOX Rios, Konerko, Dunn and Quentin.....love the middle of the lineup...love the balance Dunn Brings...love the make-up he'll bring 4 minutes ago via web If we can get Myers to go along with Dunn.. This will be a great day for the Sox I love the Sox line-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:26 PM) Jim Bowden's talking like the Dunn deal is done. JimBowdenXMFOX Rios, Konerko, Dunn and Quentin.....love the middle of the lineup...love the balance Dunn Brings...love the make-up he'll bring 4 minutes ago via web So we wouldn't be moving Quentin for Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:19 PM) Bowden reported that Dunn is close to being a member of the Sox Thanks for finding the Bowden source. Nice info! I should have taken a day off work today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:25 PM) Unless I missed something, Chris Young isn't a pitcher! Guess I should have made that part a bit more clear. I'm just saying, we (SoxTalk armchair GMs) get so attached to prospects that may never see the light of day, that we over-value them to the point of comedy. How many big league ready starting pitching prospects have we actually traded over the years? McCarthy? Broadway was garbage from the start. Ely was meh. We haven't exactly developed many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:26 PM) Thats the thing that gets me....people are fuming about losing Hudson for Jackson, who we'd control for another year+, but are all quite ok to give him up for Dunn, a 3 month strikeout machine rental... Dunn is hitting in the neighborhood of .285 with a ridiculous OBP, with sickening opposite field power, and with great power in general. He's Thome on major PED's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:27 PM) Buzzkill: Tim Kurkjian of ESPN reporting that the Nationals told him directly they are NOT trading Dunn to the White Sox for Edwin Jackson That doesnt mean that it isnt prospects and/or a roster player for Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:27 PM) Buzzkill: Tim Kurkjian of ESPN reporting that the Nationals told him directly they are NOT trading Dunn to the White Sox for Edwin Jackson How can you have such contradictory tweets in a span of 5 minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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