fathom Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (RudyLawRules @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:06 PM) Exactly. Have faith in KW...people need to chill. Sorry, but we heard this same thing during offseason relating to DH position. Also, KW's not exactly been on a role the last two years with his trades. Pretty awful if you evaluate all of them (Swisher, Vazquez, Peavy, Pena, Pierre, Teahen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I can't believe all we got for Freddy Garcia is Flipping 6 ERA Bust Gavin Floyd!!!!!! We couldn't even get back Rowand. Worst trade ever!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, I've seen over reactions to trades before. I'll withhold judgement. Sox will either flip him or they see something in him that they feel can improve. Good luck Dan Hudson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Pretty much feel the same as other do. We just traded our best pitching prospect for a guy with a 5.00 ERA in the NL West who is owed another $8 million next season. I know Cooper can do magic, and the rumor is that he likes him so he'll have to pull off a trick here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I have a sinking feeling this is it. Maybe Jackson will be good for us. But it's still quite an overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I've loved Jackson since his rookie year with the dodgers... I've always believed he could turn it around. If anyone can do it - it's Coop. The price tag for next year is high - but... If they can get Jackson to pitch like he is capable of... Then we've got an ace for .50 on a dollar. So, even if we end up keeping him... I'm satisfied and will have faith in our coaching to turn him around... Ala: contreras loiza thorton Floyd I'm just disapointed Jackson won't start for us tonight since it's his turn in the rotation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:07 PM) SoxTalk Over-valued prospect disdain and anger commence in 3....2....1.... 400k for Hudson or $8.5M for Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:07 PM) SoxTalk Over-valued prospect disdain and anger commence in 3....2....1.... I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Sox traded prospects never pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:09 PM) The price tag for next year is high - but... If they can get Jackson to pitch like he is capable of... Then we've got an ace for .50 on a dollar. We're what? The 5th organization to say this about Jackson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Wedge @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:09 PM) 400k for Hudson or $8.5M for Jackson. The funny thing is that many of the same people who worried about the games that Jenks blew, won't see the immediate value that a Jackson would win more games than Hudson in the short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I'm optimistic that since we didn't get Laroche we are adding a bat elsewhere. Hopefuly Berkman. So much for shock the world and improving them considerably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:09 PM) I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Sox traded prospects never pan out. Richard and Gio are having pretty damn good years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Wedge @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:09 PM) 400k for Hudson or $8.5M for Jackson. That's also my main concern. No doubt that Sox prospects are often overhyped though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 01:09 PM) I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Sox traded prospects never pan out. Thank you. Isn't Holmberg like 18? Does he still throw 86 mph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:03 PM) Regardless of what comes next it's still an overpay. I don't get this trade at all. Can someone explain the benefit to this trade...because I don't see it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) The funny thing is that many of the same people who worried about the games that Jenks blew, won't see the immediate value that a Jackson would win more games than Hudson in the short term. Problem is Jackson's not a clear upgrade. If it was Oswalt, then I'd agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (BFirebird @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:11 PM) I don't get this trade at all. Can someone explain the benefit to this trade...because I don't see it at all. I understand why they would want another starting pitcher. They really don't have a #5 right now, Garica is piling up more innings this year than the last 2 or 3 years combined, Buerhle has a recent history of poor 2nd halves, and, as good as Floyd & Danks have been, they can't continue at this pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (BFirebird @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 12:11 PM) I don't get this trade at all. Can someone explain the benefit to this trade...because I don't see it at all. there is none Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Well, here we go again with the Cooper Will Fix Him posts. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what we're left with on Saturday afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 cst_sox Deal is official, but day is not over ... Trust me. 8 minutes ago Another move coming????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 So according to Cowley this would mean the "shock the world" trade he mentioned wont occur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Maybe the Nats will do a straight up Jackson for Dunn trade. I'm not going to give an opinion on this trade until the 1st when I see our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Is it silly to assume that we keep Edwin Jackson and then trade something else to get a bat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I'll just roll with it here. I don't feel it's worth getting up in arms about. Maybe it will work out. I'll just have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) We're what? The 5th organization to say this about Jackson? Just goes to show that Jackson's potential is there. I've got faith in Coop and KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I CAN'T BELIEVE KW TRADED JOE VALENTINE!!! oh wait, sorry that was like my first ever post on soxtalk.... I'm gonna wait this out, see what happens.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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