Lets not let KW off the hook. He was on The Club spewing nonsense about HRs not mattering as much anymore in this supposed new baseball landscape.

 

It wasnt just Ozzie forcing his hand on this. KW had opportunities to get Thome....Branyan, Cust etc.

 

He got Pierre and bought into this no power/no walks nonsense as well.

 

Kenny is just as guilty. He let the inmates run the asylum. NL style baseball in the AL, sure looks like a winner. Keep lefty grindy crapy hitters away from Guillen.

 

 

 

 

Once again you people are underrating the importance of a DH who can play the field.

 

Bolt, you know the DH position won't make or break the Sox.

Those top of 9th and 10th were extremely long innings though. I remarked in the game thread that the first pitch to start the 10th was only 92 mph to Young.

Yeah, I saw that. I also saw most people very excited that we were running Matt out there again for the 10th.

 

I can only imagine the reaction had we gone with someone else there and that guy would have blown it.

 

We didn't get it done. No one can save a damn game for us right now. It's really inexplicable and I don't know what else to say about it.

 

 

I really hope the Twins do well in the posteason so I don't have to read a lot of these comments on here about how Twins shouldn't be taken seriously cause they suck in postseason. I don't really care how they do in the postseason, because if they make the postseason, then they beat us in the standings and that's all that matters to me.

The Twins have the best offense in baseball. They will likely at least make the ALCS this year if there starting pitching holds up. And your right I could careless about their post season early exits. At least they make more often than not.

The b**** of it is, if we had kept Thome, we probably woulda been screwed too. I don't know how, but I'm sure we would have.

the shame of it is, in the playoffs NY will put Cano about 50 ft into right field and Thome will ground out to him about 5 times and go hitless in three games

 

As bad as it feels to say this... if the twins make it and play the yanks again, I will be a yankee fan for the ALDS. I think I hate the twins more than I hate the red sox now.

That bomb put Thome in a tie for first on the all-time walk-off HR list.

Bolt, you know the DH position won't make or break the Sox.

Unfortunately tonight, it did not. People are forgetting that Kotsay had a great game tonight. Not that Thome wouldn't have made a difference over the course of the season, but for tonight, Rongey is correct - it was the pitching that lost it for us.

Yeah, I saw that. I also saw most people very excited that we were running Matt out there again for the 10th.

 

I can only imagine the reaction had we gone with someone else there and that guy would have blown it.

 

We didn't get it done. No one can save a damn game for us right now. It's really inexplicable and I don't know what else to say about it.

 

Yep, the only real move I'm mad Ozzie made was not PH for Kotsay with bases loaded. I thought he managed very well besides that. The Twins are playing now like we did a few months ago. They're just a sensational team, end of story.

Those top of 9th and 10th were extremely long innings though. I remarked in the game thread that the first pitch to start the 10th was only 92 mph to Young.

the pitch to thome was also 92.

the pitch to thome was also 92.

 

Ugh, that pisses me off. Hell, I thought it was a slider at first.

That bomb put Thome in a tie for first on the all-time walk-off HR list.

 

With whom?

I don’t have a problem with Thornton being in the game. I have a problem with him throwing Thome’s kind of pitch in Thome’s wheelhouse. That’s a troubling piece of pitch sequencing.

That bomb put Thome in a tie for first on the all-time walk-off HR list.

He's so unclutch. I really can't understand why the Sox don't dominate the Twins. Gardenhire is so handcuffed. His DH can't play the field. I wonder if the show "The Club" gets Thome's blood moving a little quicker. It always has the JR quote "It doesn't matter what we feel about him, its about winning" in the into. They were talking about him.

 

It is a must the Sox get at least one of the next two.

I don’t have a problem with Thornton being in the game. I have a problem with him throwing Thome’s kind of pitch in Thome’s wheelhouse. That’s a troubling piece of pitch sequencing.

Actually, if Thornton would have had his good fastball, there is no way Thome even sniffs it. Apparently he just did not have it when he went back out there for the 10th.

The b**** of it is, if we had kept Thome, we probably woulda been screwed too. I don't know how, but I'm sure we would have.

 

Haha. That's how I feel. It's a trap.

Actually, if Thornton would have had his good fastball, there is no way Thome even sniffs it. Apparently he just did not have it when he went back out there for the 10th.

 

Agreed completely!!!!!!!!

Did anybody really believe Thome wasn't going to beat us, and in a devastating manner?

I have been expecting and dreading this since the moment he signed with the Twins.

 

The baseball gods were angered, and now they have spoken....

The b**** of it is, if we had kept Thome, we probably woulda been screwed too. I don't know how, but I'm sure we would have.

 

Funny because it's true.

I don’t have a problem with Thornton being in the game. I have a problem with him throwing Thome’s kind of pitch in Thome’s wheelhouse. That’s a troubling piece of pitch sequencing.

He was probably in too long, and you lose some command and some stuff, but the other options were just as ugly.

And Putz would have breezed through the 10th? Right.

 

Isn't Bobby still injured?

All 3 closer candidates have wet the bed.

Actually, if Thornton would have had his good fastball, there is no way Thome even sniffs it. Apparently he just did not have it when he went back out there for the 10th.

I’d agree with that. You add 5 more MPH’s to that fastball and Thome gives you a big swing with no dice. I still don’t like the location though.

He's so unclutch. I really can't understand why the Sox don't dominate the Twins. Gardenhire is so handcuffed. His DH can't play the field. I wonder if the show "The Club" gets Thome's blood moving a little quicker. It always has the JR quote "It doesn't matter what we feel about him, its about winning" in the into. They were talking about him.

 

It is a must the Sox get at least one of the next two.

 

Very good point.

Yeah, I saw that. I also saw most people very excited that we were running Matt out there again for the 10th.

 

I can only imagine the reaction had we gone with someone else there and that guy would have blown it.

 

We didn't get it done. No one can save a damn game for us right now. It's really inexplicable and I don't know what else to say about it.

 

I agree with you except this part which is false. Other than Badger, few of the posters were surprised that Thornton was back out there for that inning in the game thread. Not saying I didn't agree with it or did (other than Matt's low velocity I thought they still would have pitched Thome better and BTW we have poorly scouted Jim whom we should know his weaknesses that game) but just throwing that out there.

 

I’d agree with that. You add 5 more MPH’s to that fastball and Thome gives you a big swing with no dice. I still don’t like the location though.

 

High fastball, Thome doesn't touch. Low fastball, Thome touches. Same as slow stuff up and away he hits, slow stuff down and away he doesn't. Simple.

Edited August 18, 201015 yr by J.Reedfan8

Thome's a Hall of Famer.

He's a gamer.

Of course his adrenaline flows against us. We were lucky when he went to the Dodgers; we were f***ed when he went to the Twins.

Crede would have been doing this to us as well if his back hadn't been broke.