what do we have?? Pena and Harrell??? maybe Peavy is gonna be ready to go??

 

Humber.

Humber.

 

Might as well include the entire AAA rotation if you're going to include Humber.

Might as well include the entire AAA rotation if you're going to include Humber.

 

Something tells me that Humber will be better than any AAA starter we have right now. No one else posted a 4 K/BB last year.

 

Not saying Humber is anything special, but I'd certainly give him just as much of a chance as Harrel, Marquez, or Hynick.

THE BACONATOR!!

 

 

According to Scott Gregor, Daily Herald White Sox beat writer, his inside sources say Chris Sale is a lock to be the White Sox closer in 2011.

 

I like it.

Something tells me that Humber will be better than any AAA starter we have right now. No one else posted a 4 K/BB last year.

 

Not saying Humber is anything special, but I'd certainly give him just as much of a chance as Harrel, Marquez, or Hynick.

 

Considering the state of our SP depth in the minors I'd say that wouldn't be too hard to accomplish.

Edited January 24, 201115 yr by Jordan4life

According to Scott Gregor, Daily Herald White Sox beat writer, his inside sources say Chris Sale is a lock to be the White Sox closer in 2011.

Beautiful!

Beautiful!

F*ck*n A!

=)

Pretty Please!!!!

 

http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz...brewers/4032194

 

Brewers interested in Kotsay.

Pretty Please!!!!

 

http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz...brewers/4032194

 

Brewers interested in Kotsay.

 

I thought it might be a good idea to keep Kotsay around.

 

He'd make an excellent bat for Dunn.

Your 2011 White Sox numbers:

1- Pierre

3- Baines

8- Cox

10- Ramirez

11- Vizquel

12- Pierzynski

13- Guillen

14- Konerko

15- Beckham

17- Flowers

18- Lillibridge

20- Quentin

21- Cooper

22- Morel

23- Teahen

24- Viciedo

26- Crain

27- Castro

28- Cora

29- Walker

30- De Aza

31- Ohman

32- Dunn

33- Jackson

34- Floyd

36- Nieves

37- Thornton

38- Gartrell

40- Bruney

41- Humber

44- Peavy

45- McPherson

46- Santos

47- Infante

48- Marquez

49- Sale

50- Danks

51- Rios

52- Kinney

53- Dolsi

54- Nunez

55- Lucy

56- Buehrle

57- Pena

58- Harrell

59- Salas

60- Gray

61- Hynick

62- Escobar

63- Cofield

64- Carter

65- Jones

66- Lindsay

67- Danks

68- Socolovich

70- Bellamy

71- Leesman

74- Price

75- Phegley

76- Short

Edited January 25, 201115 yr by flavum

Is Baines not coaching this year?

Is Baines not coaching this year?

I'm wondering that too i see Ozzie, Cora, Coop, Cox and Salas (bullpen catcher) listed but no Harold.

I thought it might be a good idea to keep Kotsay around.

 

He'd make an excellent bat for Dunn.

 

I think you're being serious. lol. You mean as a occasional DH or starter at 1B, right? He's not a bad player if used correctly. Just like Mackowiak and Wise weren't bad players if used properly.

I think you're being serious. lol. You mean as a occasional DH or starter at 1B, right? He's not a bad player if used correctly. Just like Mackowiak and Wise weren't bad players if used properly.

He actually meant that Dunn would use Kotsay as his bat. He would pick Kotsay up and swing Kotsay at the ball.

 

I think you're being serious. lol. You mean as a occasional DH or starter at 1B, right? He's not a bad player if used correctly. Just like Mackowiak and Wise weren't bad players if used properly.

 

false

 

He actually meant that Dunn would use Kotsay as his bat. He would pick Kotsay up and swing Kotsay at the ball.

 

yup

false

 

 

 

yup

 

Balta is smarter than I. I didn't think you meant it like that at all.

And for what it's worth, Mark Kotsay has zero use to an American League team right now.

 

Kotsay would be possibly useful if he could cover more than 1 position defensively. Even though he'd have an inadequate bat, he could be roster filler. With a DH slot and a 12 man bullpen, you have 4 bench players, at least 1 of whom needs to be a backup catcher. That means you have 3 backups to cover 7 spots. You pretty much need your other 3 backups to be utility guys able to cover more than 1 position. Even if they're not good at it, you need them to handle it in a pinch.

 

If you carry a guy who is strictly a backup 1b, that means you have 1 backup OF and 1 backup IF. You might get a little bit better if you have guys you can shuffle around, or a DH who can also play the field, but a strict backup 1b who provides no value with the bat is a luxury that no AL team can afford.

 

If his bat is good enough to get into the lineup on his own, even part of the time, ok, because you can shuffle him in and out of spots. If he can play several positions, even poorly, ok, because at least he's an extra backup OF if someone gets hurt. Kotsay was doing neither of those last year. He does not have any place on an American League roster.

And for what it's worth, Mark Kotsay has zero use to an American League team right now.

 

Kotsay would be possibly useful if he could cover more than 1 position defensively. Even though he'd have an inadequate bat, he could be roster filler. With a DH slot and a 12 man bullpen, you have 4 bench players, at least 1 of whom needs to be a backup catcher. That means you have 3 backups to cover 7 spots. You pretty much need your other 3 backups to be utility guys able to cover more than 1 position. Even if they're not good at it, you need them to handle it in a pinch.

 

If you carry a guy who is strictly a backup 1b, that means you have 1 backup OF and 1 backup IF. You might get a little bit better if you have guys you can shuffle around, or a DH who can also play the field, but a strict backup 1b who provides no value with the bat is a luxury that no AL team can afford.

 

If his bat is good enough to get into the lineup on his own, even part of the time, ok, because you can shuffle him in and out of spots. If he can play several positions, even poorly, ok, because at least he's an extra backup OF if someone gets hurt. Kotsay was doing neither of those last year. He does not have any place on an American League roster.

Ross Gload has filled a similar roll nicely for years now, being a backup 1B, occasional corner OF, PH and PR. But he's been in the NL, he can actually still run, and he's younger than Kotsay.

 

 

Ross Gload has filled a similar roll nicely for years now, being a backup 1B, occasional corner OF, PH and PR. But he's been in the NL, he can actually still run, and he's younger than Kotsay.

In the NL, it's a little different. Since you don't have a DH...you effectively have an extra bench slot. If you choose to use that on a guy who can play 1 position, you can still have yourself 2 deep at SS/CF and not be in real trouble if 2 guys happen to be hurt/ejected in the same game. Plus, being able to be a decent pinch hitter is a skill that seems for some people to be fully divorced from being an everyday player.

Fixed.

 

I'm wondering that too i see Ozzie, Cora, Coop, Cox and Salas (bullpen catcher) listed but no Harold.

Your 2011 White Sox numbers:

1- Pierre

3- Baines

8- Cox

10- Ramirez

11- Vizquel

12- Pierzynski

13- Guillen

14- Konerko

15- Beckham

17- Flowers

18- Lillibridge

20- Quentin

21- Cooper

22- Morel

23- Teahen

24- Viciedo

26- Crain

27- Castro

28- Cora

29- Walker

30- De Aza

31- Ohman

32- Dunn

33- Jackson

34- Floyd

36- Nieves

37- Thornton

38- Gartrell

40- Bruney

41- Humber

44- Peavy

45- McPherson

46- Santos

47- Infante

48- Marquez

49- Sale

50- Danks

51- Rios

52- Kinney

53- Dolsi

54- Nunez

55- Lucy

56- Buehrle

57- Pena

58- Harrell

59- Salas

60- Gray

61- Hynick

62- Escobar

63- Cofield

64- Carter

65- Jones

66- Lindsay

67- Danks

68- Socolovich

70- Bellamy

71- Leesman

74- Price

75- Phegley

76- Short

 

No Charlie! Not the cursed number!

I'm more surprised that they didn't retire Linebrink's number

Socolovich and Nunez are having pretty good Winter Leagues. Some of the other guys that will be in big league camp...not so good.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/org.jsp?id=cws

 

White Sox ZiPS projections are out: http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/...cago_white_sox/