JohnCangelosi Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 There hasn't been any talk on this forum about Bobby in the offseason. Is this because it's a foregone conclusion that he's gone? My guess is we don't have the $8M it will take and also we probably want to move in a new direction anyways...but what do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 There is a 99% chance he is non-tendered. Much can be inferred from Kenny's comments on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I have absolutely no problem with keeping Bobby. For like $1 or $2 million, maybe $3 million. That would be a deal I could go with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxPride56 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 He gawn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 See ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Sox Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I would look to resign him after he's non-tendered. Pretty much every one of his peripheral's point to bad luck. He was striking out a ton of guys, keeping his walks relatively low, getting more ground balls than ever in his career, etc. The .368 BABIP is bound to come down. His FIP was the second lowest of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 (edited) Bye. Come back when you throw 99 again Bobby. Edited November 25, 2010 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Nov 24, 2010 -> 06:04 PM) I would look to resign him after he's non-tendered. Pretty much every one of his peripheral's point to bad luck. He was striking out a ton of guys, keeping his walks relatively low, getting more ground balls than ever in his career, etc. The .368 BABIP is bound to come down. His FIP was the second lowest of his career. His LD% was around 25% for most of the season. That .370 BABIP wasn't all bad luck, he induced a lot of it by throwing pitches right down the pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Sox Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 That's true...but I can't see it being that high again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Nov 24, 2010 -> 07:04 PM) That's true...but I can't see it being that high again. Probably not and he won't have a 4.4 ERA again, most likely. But his ERA is going to be floating around the high 3s for the rest of his career, I'd imagine. I think we can do better for less money (J.J. Putz). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Sox Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Yeah we'll see. It's hard to predict what relievers get. Hopefully that ridiculous Benoit deal doesn't totally screw up the market. Truth be told, I can't see Jenks coming back here after being non-tendered. I suspect there's too much pride involved for that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I don't see how they can afford to keep him, especially if they bring Putz back, and can either turn to him or Sale for the closing job. Jenks has become less effective each season over the last few years, and the payroll is stretched right now. He'll find a closing role elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I don't see him coming back after a non-tender. Remember all the bad press about management calling him fat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 25, 2010 -> 06:17 PM) I don't see him coming back after a non-tender. Remember all the bad press about management calling him fat? You mean "2006"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southloopsox Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 It might be easier to fix Bobby if possible than to replace him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 QUOTE (southloopsox @ Nov 25, 2010 -> 10:32 PM) It might be easier to fix Bobby if possible than to replace him A couple years ago I might have agreed, but we've been going through seemingly the exact same issues with inconsistency basically since 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2010 -> 09:42 PM) A couple years ago I might have agreed, but we've been going through seemingly the exact same issues with inconsistency basically since 2006. Agreed. We need a fire-baller back there next year. That'll win us a bunch more games. I like Putz where he's at and if he's our closer, our bullpen might be another implodathon time-bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 25, 2010 -> 10:03 PM) You mean "2006"? Touche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 (edited) I think it's time to move on. Let Bobby go. Putz, Thornton, Sergio and Sale will close by committee. Or should close by committee. That is, unless we have to trade Jackson or Mark B to free up some money to sign Dunn and Konerko. Then I'd start Sale. There will be blown saves next season but we do have four decent bodies to replace Jenks in Putz/Thornton/Sergio/Sale. There's really no reason to bring back Bobby. I think it's a no brainer they let him go. On paper, he is replaceable. If we do bring him back, however, I'll be wanting him to be the closer. Edited November 30, 2010 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 29, 2010 -> 11:49 PM) I think it's time to move on. Let Bobby go. Putz, Thornton, Sergio and Sale will close by committee. Or should close by committee. That is, unless we have to trade Jackson or Mark B to free up some money to sign Dunn and Konerko. Then I'd start Sale. There will be blown saves next season but we do have four decent bodies to replace Jenks in Putz/Thornton/Sergio/Sale. There's really no reason to bring back Bobby. I think it's a no brainer they let him go. On paper, he is replaceable. If we do bring him back, however, I'll be wanting him to be the closer. They could bring him back if he'd take a paycut, but it would be silly to offer him arb. His performance has deteriorated as has his health is recent years. I really think this is a guy who could be one of the greats if he had the desire and discipline to do so, but he chooses to be a slob and its going to cost him a ton of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) They could bring him back if he'd take a paycut, but it would be silly to offer him arb. His performance has deteriorated as has his health is recent years. I really think this is a guy who could be one of the greats if he had the desire and discipline to do so, but he chooses to be a slob and its going to cost him a ton of money. I think one way or the other Jenks is gone, but I would be concerned about promoting on of the solid 4 bullpen arms we need to the closers role. No doubt that Putz/Thornton/Sale/Sergio have plus arms that can all close, but the strength of our bullpen last year is the fact that we have those 4 guys shortening the game and locking it down in late innings. Removing one for the closers role will really hurt the overall strength of the pen, that is unless a suitable addition being a set up man or closer is found via trade of free agency. Nonetheless, I think we need 4 shut down guys that would pitch the 6th/7th/8th and then a suitable closer for the 9th. Edited November 30, 2010 by joeynach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 07:12 PM) They could bring him back if he'd take a paycut, but it would be silly to offer him arb. His performance has deteriorated as has his health is recent years. I really think this is a guy who could be one of the greats if he had the desire and discipline to do so, but he chooses to be a slob and its going to cost him a ton of money. I'll always like him, but he ain't ever going to get in great shape. He's just a big beefy guy who I'd assume loves his food. I know nothin about his drinking habits, but seems like a guy who likes to put down the beers and his gut shows it. This is one guy that we could let loose. I'd prefer keeing Paulie/AJ though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/...nontender-jenks That's as much of a shocker as predicting that the Bills were going to lose a lot of games this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Maybe this will be some motivation for Jenks. I didn't know he and Ozzie were having problems. Hopefully Bobby doesn't try to start a pissing match when he signs with another team. He does need to remember the White Sox did him a lot of favors, and when he goes to rip Ozzie not many managers give a rookie the closing job when they are trying to win a WS. Ozzie did this guy some huge solids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Not unexpected, but every day feels like a bucket of reality hitting me that we are going to really suck next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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