I'll trust you guys who know our prospects the best.

Does Sale have 3-4 good, effective pitches? If so, he's a starter, right? If he only has two, he's a reliever.

 

 

Then Stewart's in a lot of trouble, he only consistently throws 2 pitches.

 

If they're Contreras or Verlander type stuff, you can get away with it. And Sale's slider is good enough with that fastball because of the speed differential.

 

Still, he does need to add a 3rd pitch he can throw 10-15% of the time...that could make him truly special as a starter, if his arm/shoulder/elbow and mechanics hold up with that bean-pole frame over a 162 game season.

 

Of course, a lot of people doubted Gio Gonzalez had the ability to be a starter when we drafted it and POOF!, look how far he came from draft day to now.

Edited August 12, 201114 yr by caulfield12

Then Stewart's in a lot of trouble, he only consistently throws 2 pitches.

 

If they're Contreras or Verlander type stuff, you can get away with it. And Sale's slider is good enough with that fastball because of the speed differential.

 

Still, he does need to add a 3rd pitch he can throw 10-15% of the time...that could make him truly special as a starter, if his arm/shoulder/elbow and mechanics hold up with that bean-pole frame over a 162 game season.

 

Of course, a lot of people doubted Gio Gonzalez had the ability to be a starter when we drafted it and POOF!, look how far he came from draft day to now.

Sale has a solid change.

Sale has a solid change.

 

Wasn't it his best pitch out of college?

Wasn't it his best pitch out of college?

If you believe Hawk, a well located 96 mph fastball is probably his best pitch.

JJStankevitz JJ Stankevitz

According to Baseball-Reference, there's misinformation re: Sox record for 3 ER streak. Eric King in 1989-1990 had 22:

Just bought tickets to Tuesday's game. Hopefully, they win the Royals series so that Indians series means something.

Edited August 12, 201114 yr by chw42

Random question: Have the Sox hit back-to-back homers at all this season?

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#Royals' Chen since 2010 All-Star break: In 4 starts vs. #WhiteSox, 1.00 ERA, .144 opp. avg. In 27 vs. rest of #MLB, 4.83 ERA, .292 avg.

Sale could start but with Thornton ineffective we need a lefty in the Pen. He may be more valuble there. He is not a proven starter but has shown he can do the relief job.

I gotta kick this dead horse again. Our guys getting hit and opposing pitchers throwing inside, and the Sox never protect by plunking opposing batters. A.J. hurt by Chen last night. No wonder Chen [and so many others] have success against the Sox, they have the whole plate plus inside and outside to work with. No fear of retaliation from our all talk no action manager. A.J. gets hit, Butler gets hit. No discussion its just done. let the catcher think about it when he calls for an inside pitch. When he is at bat he is at risk.

I gotta kick this dead horse again. Our guys getting hit and opposing pitchers throwing inside, and the Sox never protect by plunking opposing batters. A.J. hurt by Chen last night. No wonder Chen [and so many others] have success against the Sox, they have the whole plate plus inside and outside to work with. No fear of retaliation from our all talk no action manager. A.J. gets hit, Butler gets hit. No discussion its just done. let the catcher think about it when he calls for an inside pitch. When he is at bat he is at risk.

 

Ozzie might be the biggest sissy manager in baseball. It seems like the only people he gits fired up at are the fans when he's criticized.

Edited August 13, 201114 yr by BigSqwert

You know, I bet that if Bruce Chen pitched each game this series, the result would pretty much be the same each game. Tired arm or not. The Sox offense is that putrid against certain (most) pitchers.

Tonight's lineup:

 

Pierre, Vizquel, Konerko, Quentin, Ramirez, De Aza, Morel, Lillibridge, Flowers

 

Peavy vs Hochevar

 

Hochevar has put up 4 quality starts in his last 5, with an ERA of 2.41.

 

So enjoy the fireworks after the game.

Edited August 13, 201114 yr by flavum

Tonight's lineup:

 

Pierre, Vizquel, Konerko, Quentin, Ramirez, De Aza, Morel, Lillibridge, Flowers

 

Peavy vs Hochevar

 

Hochevar has put up 4 quality starts in his last 5, with an ERA of 2.41.

 

So enjoy the fireworks after the game.

 

Omar...?

 

God why.

Omar...?

 

God why.

Because Beckham doesn't deserve to be in there either.

 

Neither of them should be hitting about 8th though.

Omar...?

 

God why.

 

Here we go . . . More wrong guy is playing stuff when the problem is one of quality not choice.

 

So Dunn's just flat out benched? With the nasty sinker ballers we're facing next week, I'd rather pray he starts seeing the ball a little better. Anyone that thinks we can still make the postseason with this type of lineup is wrong, IMO.

Here we go . . . More wrong guy is playing stuff when the problem is one of quality not choice.

 

Thing is, Beckham is better against righties than lefties. Ozzie I'm sure has no idea of this.

So Dunn's just flat out benched? With the nasty sinker ballers we're facing next week, I'd rather pray he starts seeing the ball a little better. Anyone that thinks we can still make the postseason with this type of lineup is wrong, IMO.

 

Dunn HAS to be benched, but this lineup proves it's just not our year.

Oz doesn't get it.

Omar cannot play.

This lineup tonight sucks. It'll take some long balls from the usual suspects to win.

Three or more long balls.

We're gonna lose another series to KC. Amazing.

 

At least DeAza is in for inept Rios.

Edited August 13, 201114 yr by greg775

Dunn HAS to be benched, but this lineup proves it's just not our year.

Oz doesn't get it.

Omar cannot play.

This lineup tonight sucks. It'll take some long balls from the usual suspects to win.

Three or more long balls.

We're gonna lose another series to KC. Amazing.

 

Something that's ridiculous is that De Aza looks like he could be a very good #2 hitter. He hits a ton of grounders between first and second, which is exactly what you want. I guess Ozzie has too much respect to bat Vizquel down in the lineup.

Something that's ridiculous is that De Aza looks like he could be a very good #2 hitter. He hits a ton of grounders between first and second, which is exactly what you want. I guess Ozzie has too much respect to bat Vizquel down in the lineup.

 

I'd love for DeAza to be second.

It's not our year... sucks.

Thing is, Beckham is better against righties than lefties. Ozzie I'm sure has no idea of this.

 

I'm sure Ozzie's sick of watching Beckham make outs like the rest of Soxdom.

Problem is we have so many lousy hitters.

scottmerkin Scott Merkin

In the next two weeks, it looks as if the White Sox will face Jimenez, Masterson, Ogando, Santana, Weaver and Hernandez

 

scottmerkin Scott Merkin

In the next two weeks, it looks as if the White Sox will face Jimenez, Masterson, Ogando, Santana, Weaver and Hernandez

 

at least its not bruce chen