maggsmaggs Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 15, 2011 -> 02:22 PM) So did Chris Carpenter and Josh Johnson. Strasburg is a once in a generation type talent. But part of his talent is an 80 fastball and curveball. I have a hard time believing that curveball will be an 80 after TJS. And who knows what kind of velocity he will have after TJS. Yes, some pitchers do come back and become top-tier MLB pitchers, but some don't (Liriano, Nathan, etc.). I think the skepticism of his stuff coming back completely is valid. Harper though is sick. Great intangibles. Out-of-this-world talent. I can't foresee a way he doesn't become at least a All-Star level player. Edited May 15, 2011 by maggsmaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 15, 2011 -> 03:01 PM) But part of his talent is an 80 fastball and curveball. I have a hard time believing that curveball will be an 80 after TJS. And who knows what kind of velocity he will have after TJS. Yes, some pitchers do come back and become top-tier MLB pitchers, but some don't (Liriano, Nathan, etc.). I think the skepticism of his stuff coming back completely is valid. Harper though is sick. Great intangibles. Out-of-this-world talent. I can't foresee a way he doesn't become at least a All-Star level player. I would trade the entire White Sox franchise for Strasburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted May 15, 2011 Author Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 15, 2011 -> 03:18 PM) I would trade the entire White Sox franchise for Strasburg. Mmmk. Good thing you don't have a job in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ May 15, 2011 -> 05:09 PM) Mmmk. Good thing you don't have a job in baseball. I just had a Mike Ditka flashback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (danman31 @ May 15, 2011 -> 05:09 PM) Mmmk. Good thing you don't have a job in baseball. And when Strasburg, health permitting, is racking up CY after CY you'll change your tune. That dude is special. If he gets hurt, so be it. That's the ONLY thing that can stop him. Edited May 15, 2011 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 15, 2011 -> 06:35 PM) And when Strasburg, health permitting, is racking up CY after CY you'll change your tune. That dude is special. If he gets hurt, so be it. That's the ONLY thing that can stop him. Where's our Liriano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 15, 2011 -> 01:01 PM) some don't (Liriano, Nathan, etc.). Nathan has only been back for a month and a half so lets wait til we call his career over. In addition, Strasburg had his TJS at a young age giving him a much better chance of coming back to his old form, finally it is now the exception to the rule when a pitcher doesn't return to pre-surgery or near pre-surgery form following a TJS. It is such a common surgery these days and the doctors are so good at performing it that it's just not that big a deal. Anyways, i think the previous poster's point was that the Nats sure got lucky to get the chance to draft two once a decade talents in back to back years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 15, 2011 -> 06:15 PM) I just had a Mike Ditka flashback. I did too. Fair comparison too. Ricky Williams was a damn good running back, but worth all that? Ehh. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 15, 2011 -> 06:35 PM) And when Strasburg, health permitting, is racking up CY after CY you'll change your tune. That dude is special. If he gets hurt, so be it. That's the ONLY thing that can stop him. Impossible. The dude better win 5 of them to even give you an argument and I'll bet he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 15, 2011 -> 06:35 PM) And when Strasburg, health permitting, is racking up CY after CY you'll change your tune. That dude is special. If he gets hurt, so be it. That's the ONLY thing that can stop him. Health permitting is a pretty big understood what if. Strasburg is a monstrous health risk. Even if he is an 8 WAR pitcher - I think he's probably closer to a 6-7 WAR pitcher - then we'll say the Sox system will have to produce 1 good regular and 2-3 average players or good relievers. And I think you said you'd trade the entire White Sox team too, which means that you are then without Danks, Floyd, Santos, Sale, Dunn, and whoever else you value. That would be a very bad trade, I don't care how good Strasburg is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 (edited) Some interesting streaks going on for the month of May: Dayan Viciedo: .418 BA, 23-55, 7 doubles, 2 HR, 19 RBI, 6/10 BB/K, .468 OBP, .655 SLG, 1.122 OPS Justin Greene in AA: .364, 16-44, 7 doubles, 9/10 R/RBI; but...2/11 b/k. Still, the k/ab ratio has improved. Josh Phegley in AA: .333 BA, 15-45, 4 doubles, 2 triples (!), no HRs though, 10/7 R/RBI, only has K'd 8 times, which is an improvement too. Christian Marrero: .364 for the month of May. Dallas McPherson is hitting .321 for May too, but...19Ks in 53 ABs. Some things never change. Jim Gallagher...his OBP continues to climb, so far it's .391 for May. Edited May 17, 2011 by OilCan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (OilCan @ May 16, 2011 -> 06:58 PM) Some interesting streaks going on for the month of May: Dayan Viciedo: .418 BA, 23-55, 7 doubles, 2 HR, 19 RBI, 6/10 BB/K, .468 OBP, .655 SLG, 1.122 OPS Justin Greene in AA: .364, 16-44, 7 doubles, 9/10 R/RBI; but...2/11 b/k. Still, the k/ab ratio has improved. Josh Phegley in AA: .333 BA, 15-45, 4 doubles, 2 triples (!), no HRs though, 10/7 R/RBI, only has K'd 8 times, which is an improvement too. Christian Marrero: .364 for the month of May. Dallas McPherson is hitting .321 for May too, but...19Ks in 53 ABs. Some things never change. Jim Gallagher...his OBP continues to climb, so far it's .391 for May. If Phegley has gotten past his health issues, he's really worth keeping an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 It would be really nice if some of these guys can put their problem histories behind them and emerge as legit prospects. Then again the way the big club is going, they are about to have a lot more competition in the minors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john@jmjtc.com Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Terry Doyle's last 4 starts: 28 Innings, 23 Hits, 4 Walks, 13 Strike outs, 9 Earned Runs, 2.89 ERA, 0-3, 1 ND Frustrating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (NHDadUmp-RI @ May 17, 2011 -> 09:54 AM) Terry Doyle's last 4 starts: 28 Innings, 23 Hits, 4 Walks, 13 Strike outs, 9 Earned Runs, 2.89 ERA, 0-3, 1 ND Frustrating! Sounds like he is ready for the bigs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Petricka faces Bryce Harper tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 QUOTE (flavum @ May 17, 2011 -> 11:55 AM) Petricka faces Bryce Harper tonight. May the devil have mercy on Petricka's poor soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Drew Garcia moved up to Charlotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I would trade the entire White Sox franchise for Strasburg. I would offer the entire White Sox farm system for Strasburg. But, Washington isn't that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ May 17, 2011 -> 05:35 PM) I would offer the entire White Sox farm system for Strasburg. But, Washington isn't that stupid. Fortunately, neither is KW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 http://twitter.com/#!/eddymk/status/70957389427384320 @eddymk Matt Eddy #WhiteSox released Miguel Negron, who had converted to LHP after 11 seasons as CF. Worked 7 games for Low-A Kannapolis: 6 SO, 7 BB, 10 R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 19, 2011 Share Posted May 19, 2011 White Sox vice chairman Einhorn will be joined by Daryl Boston as the club's representatives for this year's Draft. Boston, who currently is working in his 11th year as the organization's Minor League outfield instructor, was the inaugural White Sox top pick under the current ownership regime. Boston was taken with the seventh pick overall in 1981, and reached the Majors in 1984 with the White Sox. The White Sox do not have a first-round pick this year, with their 23rd selection overall going to the Washington Nationals as a result of the free-agent signing of designated hitter Adam Dunn. But when the White Sox make their first pick at No. 47, in compensation round A for Arizona's signing of closer J.J. Putz, Einhorn and Boston will be introduced and make the announcement of this particular selection. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Mr. Doyle, your son's been promoted to B'ham. Although I'm sure you already know. They're on a ten game road trip right now, hope he enjoys his drive to Jacksonville. I'm assuming he'll take Nevin Griffith's spot in the rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Congrats to Terry!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john@jmjtc.com Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 20, 2011 -> 01:31 PM) Mr. Doyle, your son's been promoted to B'ham. Although I'm sure you already know. They're on a ten game road trip right now, hope he enjoys his drive to Jacksonville. I'm assuming he'll take Nevin Griffith's spot in the rotation. Saturday, first start! Told it was a "spot start", but maybe... Flying to Jax, car-less don't you know. Need a good start T! (BTFW, Mr Doyle's my fathers name. "John" works fine for me.) Edited May 20, 2011 by NHDadUmp-RI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 QUOTE (NHDadUmp-RI @ May 20, 2011 -> 01:54 PM) Saturday, first start! Told it was a "spot start", but maybe... Flying to Jax, car-less don't you know. Need a good start T! (BTFW, Mr Doyle's my fathers name. "John" works fine for me.) Wait, this is Terry Doyle's father? How cool! Can't wait to finally have a starting pitcher to follow in B'Ham! lol, AA was so barren w/ anything good on the starting pitching end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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