September 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 04:25 PM) Also, watch how fast players start blaming the guy who is let go. With the number of guys who have left this org and ripped them over the past 10 years? I'd expect that the floodgates would open if Ozzie was traded.
September 5, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 03:26 PM) With the number of guys who have left this org and ripped them over the past 10 years? I'd expect that the floodgates would open if Ozzie was traded. I was thinking more along the lines of "I can't hit because of Oz" . . .
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 07:50 PM) I was thinking more along the lines of "I can't hit because of Oz" . . . Now that one is too over the top to even be laugh worthy tex.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 12:16 PM) What?! He completely refuted the point you made, and that was your response? I don't even know what it's supposed to mean. The inner workings of the mind of an ardent Ozzie support are fascinating.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 07:05 PM) Now that one is too over the top to even be laugh worthy tex. You don't think players will start blaming the distractions of Oz as soon as he's gone? You don't think there will be comments about the clubhouse being in turmoil, etc? Or the fighting between Oz and KW and Walker? They will blame Oz for their terrible season.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 08:17 PM) You don't think players will start blaming the distractions of Oz as soon as he's gone? You don't think there will be comments about the clubhouse being in turmoil, etc? Or the fighting between Oz and KW and Walker? They will blame Oz for their terrible season. Of course, but no one is likely to be dumb enough to say it in the way you attempted to satirize. Of course everyone is going to rip Ozzie, and Ozzie is going to go off on the team for months too.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 07:19 PM) Of course everyone is going to rip Ozzie I really doubt that.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 08:50 PM) I really doubt that. Bobby Jenks agrees.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 07:19 PM) Of course, but no one is likely to be dumb enough to say it in the way you attempted to satirize. Of course everyone is going to rip Ozzie, and Ozzie is going to go off on the team for months too. So I believe they will blame their performance on Oz, you disagree? They will say Oz was a problem, but it didn't affect their play?
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 08:02 PM) Because it doesn't need to be? Florida is generally cheap anyway, and Ozzie is not exactly going to have a lot of negotiating strength. QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 6, 2011 -> 12:17 AM) You don't think players will start blaming the distractions of Oz as soon as he's gone? You don't think there will be comments about the clubhouse being in turmoil, etc? Or the fighting between Oz and KW and Walker? They will blame Oz for their terrible season. 1.) Florida is beginning the Oz era. Don't they have a new stadium as well? He NEEDS a 4-year deal for the feel good story to be complete. The "we got our man" in Ozzie. We got him! Three year deal won't fool anybody; four year deal and the city is ready to have a parade for its man, Ozzie. It'll be 4 year I predict. 2.) Yes they will! You got it right.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 07:17 PM) You don't think players will start blaming the distractions of Oz as soon as he's gone? You don't think there will be comments about the clubhouse being in turmoil, etc? Or the fighting between Oz and KW and Walker? They will blame Oz for their terrible season. The thing is, if the players think it is true, it is. Doesn't matter whether it really was why or not.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 09:45 PM) 1.) Florida is beginning the Oz era. Don't they have a new stadium as well? He NEEDS a 4-year deal for the feel good story to be complete. The "we got our man" in Ozzie. We got him! Three year deal won't fool anybody; four year deal and the city is ready to have a parade for its man, Ozzie. It'll be 4 year I predict. 2.) Yes they will! You got it right. LOL, and who is gonna show up? You do realize that no one cares about MLB baseball in Florida.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 6, 2011 -> 03:45 AM) 1.) Florida is beginning the Oz era. Don't they have a new stadium as well? He NEEDS a 4-year deal for the feel good story to be complete. The "we got our man" in Ozzie. We got him! Three year deal won't fool anybody; four year deal and the city is ready to have a parade for its man, Ozzie. It'll be 4 year I predict. 2.) Yes they will! You got it right. You are really out of touch with the enthusiasm for baseball in Florida, as well as the NL East. The Marlins have no real shot in that division for a long time coming. Their great pipeline of players in their system has dried up, and you have mega-superstar teams like the Braves/Phillies already in place with the Nationals waiting to jump into that picture.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 5, 2011 -> 08:45 PM) 1.) Florida is beginning the Oz era. Don't they have a new stadium as well? He NEEDS a 4-year deal for the feel good story to be complete. The "we got our man" in Ozzie. We got him! Three year deal won't fool anybody; four year deal and the city is ready to have a parade for its man, Ozzie. It'll be 4 year I predict. 2.) Yes they will! You got it right. Ozzie won't last 4 years working for a fellow hothead in Loria. The Phillies, Braves and Nats are way ahead of them. I predict he'll get fired in year 2.
September 6, 201114 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 6, 2011 -> 08:08 AM) The thing is, if the players think it is true, it is. Doesn't matter whether it really was why or not. True.
September 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 8, 2011 -> 12:06 AM) Do you guys think there's any way Ozzie returns? Doesn't matter what we think, you'll insist he should stay anyways.
September 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 8, 2011 -> 05:22 AM) Doesn't matter what we think, you'll insist he should stay anyways. My "insisting" won't help keep him. I was wondering if the papers are hinting there's a chance he'll be back.
September 8, 201114 yr Marty seems to know. Or not. Unless you're close to JR (as a writer), you have no idea whatsover. Edited September 8, 201114 yr by caulfield12
September 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 8, 2011 -> 01:06 AM) Do you guys think there's any way Ozzie returns? I'd say it's 50/50 at worst. It's gonna be up to the Chairman.
September 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 8, 2011 -> 12:06 AM) Do you guys think there's any way Ozzie returns? Supposedly Marc Silverman said JR is set to talk contract with Ozzie when they get back to Chicago. I have seen no one else report that as of yet.
September 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 8, 2011 -> 12:06 AM) Do you guys think there's any way Ozzie returns? I think he'll be back. I just haven't seen or heard anything that makes me believe otherwise.
September 8, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 8, 2011 -> 10:12 AM) I keep thinking Oz be back as what? Da Guy Who Makes The f***ing Line Ups
September 8, 201114 yr Author QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2011 -> 10:40 AM) Da Guy Who Makes The f***ing Line Ups "Fockin'" *
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