September 11, 201114 yr http://www.beerleaguer.com/whitesox/2011/0...tm_medium=email Peavy's trying season comes to an end Jake Peavy won't pitch for the White Sox again in 2011. Jake-peavy3 Since coming to the White Sox, Peavy has set new career highs in ERA, with a 4.63 mark in 2010 and a 4.94 dud in 2011.He's thrown 218 2/3 innings since 2010, fewer than he threw in his Cy Young season of 2007. His strikeout rate has fallen, as has his velocity. There were some encouraging signs for Peavy this season, as his 3.21 FIP/3.50 xFIP serve as positive notes. Behind those sparkling stats was a decreased walk rate, as Peavy's 1.93 BB/9 is a career low. There are two ways to approach Peavy's 2011 season, at least in reference to how it'll affect 2012. The first is a pessimistic outlook, which states Peavy's dropped velocity and high ERA are major red flags for his future. But there's a second view that can be taken, and it's actually somewhat optimistic. Peavy, at some points this season, has begun to learn how to pitch without the overpowering stuff he featured in San Diego. His walk rate is a good indication of that, although that he hasn't increased his ground ball rate is disconcerting. No matter which line of thinking you subscribe to, the Sox shouldn't count on Peavy for more than 120 innings next season. Unfortunately, though, they'll probably have to, as his enormous salary makes a move to the bullpen worthless. While things may not be looking up for the Sox next year, a full season of success out of Peavy *could* go a long way toward the Sox avoiding mediocrity
September 11, 201114 yr As long as another injury doesn't occur, I think 2012 will be his finest season with the White Sox. There were flashes of dominance. Personally, I would like to see him finish out the season. I think pitching now would help him for next year, but they pay people a lot of money to make that determination.
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September 11, 201114 yr 2012 is a contract year for him, so yes, expect a good year. I'm predicting he'll win 15 games and post an ERA below 4. If he does that, however, he should sign a multi year league minimum contract with the Sox to compensate for all of the money he stole during his tenure from the team/insurance company.
September 11, 201114 yr I'm indifferent. Just hoping he's noticably better in ST and into the season. Last chance for semi-redemption.
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 10:40 AM) 2012 is a contract year for him, so yes, expect a good year. I'm predicting he'll win 15 games and post an ERA below 4. If he does that, however, he should sign a multi year league minimum contract with the Sox to compensate for all of the money he stole during his tenure from the team/insurance company. money he stole? some of the things you say, really f***ing dumb
September 11, 201114 yr Hope he can contribute next season. He has shown some great performances just not enough. Troubling when you read that the Sox shouldn't expect more than 120 innings next year. Really?
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 10:35 AM) As long as another injury doesn't occur, I think 2012 will be his finest season with the White Sox. There were flashes of dominance. Personally, I would like to see him finish out the season. I think pitching now would help him for next year, but they pay people a lot of money to make that determination. How difficult would that be? There are probably 75 starters who could put up a season that would be his best for us
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (docsox24 @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 05:11 PM) How difficult would that be? There are probably 75 starters who could put up a season that would be his best for us It shouldn't be too difficult but his 2011 was worse than his 2010 and when he was acquired it would have been easy to say he would have been much better than he's been. I think he'll pitch more than 120 innings. But you never know.
September 11, 201114 yr Going into this year I would be very optimistic Peavy would have a much better season and something around 150-180 innings. Now I see how a player could be "dunn" and actually get much, much, worse.
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 06:05 PM) I really hope KW gets the boot. Peavy, Dunn, Rios. all s***ty signings. Only one was a signing... ...and all were great moves at the time.
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 06:05 PM) I really hope KW gets the boot. Peavy, Dunn, Rios. all s***ty signings. So when the team is desperate for a DH how will you handle a GM who says a Dunn type player is about to have a major league all-time record for futility?
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 06:06 PM) Only one was a signing... ...and all were great moves at the time. Rios wasn't. The Blue Jays wanted to get rid of his overpaid ass for a reason.
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 06:06 PM) Only one was a signing... ...and all were great moves at the time. lol, dude they were terrible trades, signings. admit it.
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 06:05 PM) I really hope KW gets the boot. Peavy, Dunn, Rios. all s***ty signings. Peavy...not a signing. Trade was bad for taking on that contract for an injured player. Rios...not a signing. Waiver claim was awful. Dunn...was a signing that 99% of the Sox fans loved. Just hasn't worked out. Kenny should get fired for having three awful years, but you can't blame him for Dunn. Edited September 11, 201114 yr by flavum
September 11, 201114 yr lol, dude they were terrible trades, signings. admit it. S/he can't.. Everything is Ozzie's fault, nothing is Kenny's fault according to Q
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 06:08 PM) Rios wasn't. The Blue Jays wanted to get rid of his overpaid ass for a reason. Everyone here was excited for Rios.
September 11, 201114 yr Having three players not pan out isn't unusual for a GM. What makes this unusual is they are three of the highest paid guys on the team. I wouldn't call them bad decisions, there was a gamble or two in there, but the Dunn signing was solid, and turned out to be perhaps the worst signing of the past ten years.
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 06:20 PM) Everyone here was excited for Rios. I think there was some hopefulness and people were glad they had a guy who could catch the ball in CF. But the years and money Kenny took on, that was an awful move regardless of what the fans thought of it.
September 11, 201114 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 06:20 PM) Everyone here was excited for Rios. Our CFs were Wise, Terrero, Anderson, Erstad, Mackowiak and 50-year old Griffey Jr. prior to Rios. Of course there was excitement. But there was quite a bit of risk and potential downside. We've been b****-slapped with that risk and downside. Forgot about Swisher. Edited September 12, 201114 yr by Jordan4life
September 12, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 11, 2011 -> 05:42 PM) Our CFs were Wise, Terrero, Anderson, Erstad, Mackowiak and 50-year old Griffey Jr. prior to Rios. Of course there was excitement. But there was quite a bit of risk and potential downside. We've been b****-slapped with that risk and downside. Forgot about Swisher. That's just it...EVERY move Kenny has made has been out of seemingly desperation. That's not what successful teams do.
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