Melissa1334 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 not sure if anyone posted this but just saw it on mlb network and thought it was funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 11:47 PM) I really don't know AGAIN how you can watch this current video of Ozzie and not feel good about the man. Listen to his comments about Mark. I wish Sox fans would let bygones be bygones. You can hate his kids if you want if you hated their tweets, but Ozzie? Every tape I watch of the guy makes me laugh or happy he was our skipper. I guess we all agree to disagree. But again, critique this tape for me. I give it an A again for class/humor. http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogallery...tion-in-Chicago There are many managers/coaches that are good interviews but s***ty in games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Watching the front office for the Marlins talk yesterday was like deja vu of the Sox season last year. They were shocked at how guys with track records like Reyes and Hanley could be struggling so much. I'm not trying to start a war saying that it's Ozzie's fault those guys are underachieving so much this year, but it does seem like a very similar situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Hypothetically speaking, if Ozzie got the boot at the end of the year and went to another team who signs big free agents in the off-season and those big time players uncharacteristically struggle in 2013 like they have with the Marlins or the 2011 White Sox; would it be overwhelming evidence that it's Ozzie's fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 10:03 PM) Hypothetically speaking, if Ozzie got the boot at the end of the year and went to another team who signs big free agents in the off-season and those big time players uncharacteristically struggle in 2013 like they have with the Marlins or the 2011 White Sox; would it be overwhelming evidence that it's Ozzie's fault? No, it's never solely the manager's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 05:12 PM) No, it's never solely the manager's fault. Ok, let me rephrase that. Would it be evident that big name players who play under Ozzie Guillen are more likely to have uncharacteristic down years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 11:13 PM) Ok, let me rephrase that. Would it be evident that big name players who play under Ozzie Guillen are more likely to have uncharacteristic down years? Hard to say that, as for every Dunn or Hanley, there's a 2004-2011 Paul Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Then someone should name Rick Dempsey manager. "I tell ya Stone Pony, in my seven decades in professional baseball, Rick Dempsey was the most entertaining performer during rain delays that I've ever seen, especially his outstanding Babe Ruth 'called shot' impression." As far as Ozzie goes, you would think three strikes and he's out for a managerial career. But one would have to doubt he's going to go back to managing right away (were he to get fired). He'd probably take at least a year off and work on TV until he said something that got him fired or in trouble with the FCC. Edited July 19, 2012 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxmaniac! Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 04:58 PM) Watching the front office for the Marlins talk yesterday was like deja vu of the Sox season last year. They were shocked at how guys with track records like Reyes and Hanley could be struggling so much. I'm not trying to start a war saying that it's Ozzie's fault those guys are underachieving so much this year, but it does seem like a very similar situation. Let me put it this way. If I were Kenny, I would be trying to aquire struggling Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 06:26 PM) Let me put it this way. If I were Kenny, I would be trying to aquire struggling Marlins. Yup. I dont think Oz lasts 3 years there with the money they poured in and what they are getting out. So far all he's been known for is having a big mouth and underachieving players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 07:30 PM) Yup. I dont think Oz lasts 3 years there with the money they poured in and what they are getting out. So far all he's been known for is having a big mouth and underachieving players. I'd give it an outside shot that he's gone after this season, let alone 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgaughan09 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 19, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) He'd probably take at least a year off and work on TV until he said something that got him fired or in trouble with the FCC. I could see a certain four letter network drooling at the thought of getting him on air. Until he starts tossing F bombs around on live TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 QUOTE (northside sawx @ Jul 20, 2012 -> 12:42 PM) I could see a certain four letter network drooling at the thought of getting him on air. Until he starts tossing F bombs around on live TV He is made for TV (as long as they are on a seven second delay)/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Marlins losers of 5 in a row. It wouldn't shock me if they made a huge trade to try and shake things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 04:03 PM) Marlins losers of 5 in a row. It wouldn't shock me if they made a huge trade to try and shake things up. More like unload the payroll, hopefully we get Johnson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 20, 2012 -> 11:45 AM) He is made for TV (as long as they are on a seven second delay)/ I don't see him being a problem on TV. It's a lot different when you don't have emotional interest in a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 03:48 PM) More like unload the payroll, hopefully we get Johnson! They did a poor job of spending that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 05:54 PM) They did a poor job of spending that money. The concept of moving HanRam to 3rd didn't seem nearly as crazy as moving Miguel Cabrera there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 04:54 PM) I don't see him being a problem on TV. It's a lot different when you don't have emotional interest in a team. Not for Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 10:28 PM) Not for Ozzie. You might have to add the word "Deportes" (SP). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Sources tell me and @jonmorosi that #Marlins are extremely disappointed with team's performance and are prepared to make a series of trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Scott Miller of CBS Sports hears that the Marlins have "never been more open" to the idea of trading long-time franchise cornerstone Hanley Ramirez. As Miller notes, the Fish don't feel they're far from contending, they simply have soured on a mix of players that has underperformed. Ramirez's most recent antics, in which he punched a cooling fan in the dugout, now have him unavailable to play. Ramirez stopped taking medication for the cut he sustained, which has led to an infection in his hand. at this point, i wonder how much value hanley has. he hasnt cared for a couple years now, and now this. i also dont buy into the whole he didnt mind moving to third. he dogged it a few times last year. just dont see why anyone want this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 06:30 AM) Scott Miller of CBS Sports hears that the Marlins have "never been more open" to the idea of trading long-time franchise cornerstone Hanley Ramirez. As Miller notes, the Fish don't feel they're far from contending, they simply have soured on a mix of players that has underperformed. Ramirez's most recent antics, in which he punched a cooling fan in the dugout, now have him unavailable to play. Ramirez stopped taking medication for the cut he sustained, which has led to an infection in his hand. at this point, i wonder how much value hanley has. he hasnt cared for a couple years now, and now this. i also dont buy into the whole he didnt mind moving to third. he dogged it a few times last year. just dont see why anyone want this guy I'm the opposite. I bet he is a prime bounceback candidate if history has taught me anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I will say this: KW never pulled the rug out from under Ozzie like what we may see in the next month from Beinfest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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