southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 12:53 PM) Holy cow... Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #RedSox and #Marlins discussing blockbuster: Carl Crawford and prospect to Miami for Hanley Ramirez and Heath Bell. #MLB What the f***? How is that even possible. Why would Miami do that? Crawford's contract is a monstrosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 12:58 PM) What the f***? How is that even possible. Why would Miami do that? Crawford's contract is a monstrosity. also bell blows and hanley hasnt been too good this yr and last yr....odd trade scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 12:53 PM) Holy cow... Bob Nightengale @BNightengale The #RedSox and #Marlins discussing blockbuster: Carl Crawford and prospect to Miami for Hanley Ramirez and Heath Bell. #MLB That actually makes sense for both teams and all of the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 01:05 PM) That actually makes sense for both teams and all of the players. It makes sense if John Henry's writing a check for $25-35 million to go along with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 01:05 PM) That actually makes sense for both teams and all of the players. I don't see it at all. Boston gets the best player, and they give up a horrible, horrible contract in Crawford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 keithlaw @keithlaw Per @Buster_ESPN, nothing doing. RT @mpolinsk: Any thoughts on this USA today rumor of this Red Sox-Marlins "mega deal"? Any truth to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN Sources:There is no current discussion involving Crawford and Hanley Ramirez/Heath Bell. Was brought up briefly as concept,immediately died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 dont see where crawford would play(once stanton comes back) since they have morisson and stanton in lf/rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Was brought up briefly as concept By who? A 15 year old rabid Red Sox fan with access to a gamecube and MVP 05? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale If the #Marlins do decide they're out of it, Anibal Sanchez and Josh Johnson also will go. #Braves have expressed interest in Sanchez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Bob Nightengale @BNightengale If the #Marlins do decide they're out of it, Anibal Sanchez and Josh Johnson also will go. #Braves have expressed interest in Sanchez. The Sox are scouting Sanchez and Johnson as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 06:26 PM) By who? A 15 year old rabid Red Sox fan with access to a gamecube and MVP 05? That's all it takes now with Twitter and everything. Easy to plant bad rumors out there. Too many bloggers. Somebody will blog it or bite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) That's all it takes now with Twitter and everything. Easy to plant bad rumors out there. Too many bloggers. Somebody will blog it or bite. Phil Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 01:47 PM) The Sox are scouting Sanchez and Johnson as well johnson has started over 30 games just once in his career and makes 13.5 mil next year, pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 17, 2012 -> 11:49 PM) Of all the things you people hate that Ozzie has said, why can't you embrace what he said today? “I am a true White Sox,” he said. “Put it this way, 21 years with the same organization. Nobody can say (bleep) about me in the White Sox organization. Nobody. I am a true White Sox. I spent more years with the White Sox than anybody out there. The White Sox will always be in my heart.” How can you guys/gals turn on this man? He bleeds White Sox red. I can turn on him because he can't even do his f***ing math right. That's why. QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 01:58 AM) Let me try this one final time. Why do you folks despise our WS winning manager? Take out the "quitting on the team" and actions of his "kids" and you tell me what he's done so badly that makes you hate him. Don't forget this is a franchise with other villains like unlikeable Kenny Williams and the save-my-own-back-man, Mr. Cooper. Take out the "winning a championship" thing and tell me why you love him so much. Oh, right, that wouldn't make sense, right? You can't just "take stuff out" if it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 09:05 AM) So...you've worked for your company for 28 years, you have a new GM for the last 8 or 9, why would your job status have ANYTHING to do with the GM? If you are the star employee but a specialist in your field, why should you quit or take one for the team or fall on your own sword because the GM of your company is having problems with the ownership (in this case, JR and KW)??? You're telling me you would quit to show symbolic support for Ozzie, when Ozzie wasn't even the one who hired you? After that same GM started renegotiating for a new contract without telling anyone what he was doing...and told everyone "let all the coaches sweat." What WOULD YOU DO GREG, in that same situation? Explain to me what Cooper OWED Ozzie there? If anything, he wanted to reconfirm his loyalty and desire to stay to JR and KW, and show he wasn't looking to leave to go anywhere else. Isn't being loyal to JR and the Sox a GOOD thing here? How is it back-stabbing? Ozzie backstabbed Jeff Cox, he just left him hanging out to dry and now he doesn't have a job, does he? Is Mr. Super Rich Ozzie paying for Cox's kids to attend their private school this year with him out of a job? I think not. Why do you think Baines is still coaching there, wasn't he a backstabber, too? No, they're both more loyal to the White Sox UNIFORM than any one single person or manager. Guillen was booed vociferously during an eighth inning pitching change, the loudest Cubs fans got on a sweltering night. He responded by pointing to his ring finger, a reference to his two World Series rings with the Marlins and White Sox www.chicagotribune.com/sports You are better than that. They are not loyal to any uniform. All these baseball guys are out for numero uno. I love Ozzie pointing to his ring finger there. That's one of the reasons I love Oz the personality. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 01:04 PM) We could have had way more than just 2005 if Ozzie could STFU every once in a while, and put himself second, instead of first. All Ozzie is, is a realty show whore anymore. At least when he played baseball and first started managing, he seemed to care somewhat about the game. Now he is trying to bully 19 year olds to get a few more seconds on SportsCenter. Not only was it time for Ozzie to leave, the longer he is gone, the more I am convinced he f***ed us out of at least division titles, and maybe more, over his last few years. You can hate on Kenny and Coop, but they are still here, and guess what, the Sox are winning with half of the talent they had last year. Ugh. Now we're blaming Ozzie for not winning more WS titles or divisional titles? Cmon. It's not like the White Sox have any history of dominating baseball. I'll take the one WS in his regime. Hopefully Robin can do the same and he might. I like Robin. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 02:11 PM) Will go to my grave saying that we'd have won the division if we'd actually played Anderson in CF as a regular starter rather than as a part time platoon player with Mackowiak's incredibly awful defense killing us out there. Yes, the advanced stats don't say it cost us more than a game or so...every time Mack was out there, he killed us. Brian Anderson is a stiff. A total stiff. Just another guy who couldn't make it in the bigs. QUOTE (soxmaniac! @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 04:32 PM) ozzie's stubbornness when it comes to playing certain players is just awful. our CF defense in 2006 still gives me nightmares. honestly, there is no point in arguing about ozzie's baseball managing skills with greg. he cant even defend ozzie's managerial skills. he just loves ozzie the person, so he will defend him to the alter (somewhere greg is crossing his fingers) and all the way to death. Don't go there. Bad joke. I am not gay though as Seinfeld said there's .... Edited July 18, 2012 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) Ugh. Now we're blaming Ozzie for not winning more WS titles or divisional titles? Cmon. It's not like the White Sox have any history of dominating baseball. I'll take the one WS in his regime. Hopefully Robin can do the same and he might. I like Robin. Guillen gets credit for the World Series title, right? Then he also gets credit for the losses and lost seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I just want to point out you can't bleed White Sox red. White Sox black or white? Different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 07:26 PM) Guillen gets credit for the World Series title, right? Then he also gets credit for the losses and lost seasons. Fair enough. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 07:27 PM) I just want to point out you can't bleed White Sox red. White Sox black or white? Different story. I always put red because of the Sunday unis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) Ugh. Now we're blaming Ozzie for not winning more WS titles or divisional titles? Cmon. It's not like the White Sox have any history of dominating baseball. I'll take the one WS in his regime. Hopefully Robin can do the same and he might. I like Robin. It's the exact same argument with Ditka. Some people see that he won the only Bears Super Bowl & they like the personality. Others see that he had arguably the greatest defense in NFL history, yet only made one Super Bowl appearance with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 09:03 PM) It's the exact same argument with Ditka. Some people see that he won the only Bears Super Bowl & they like the personality. Others see that he had arguably the greatest defense in NFL history, yet only made one Super Bowl appearance with it. True. I have to admit I have a positive impression when I think of Ditka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2012 -> 04:27 PM) True. I have to admit I have a positive impression when I think of Ditka. Well that explains everything, Dikta is pretty much Ozzie. Lots of fans love him but the diehards think he was the only reason we didn't win multiple championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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greg775 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I really don't know AGAIN how you can watch this current video of Ozzie and not feel good about the man. Listen to his comments about Mark. I wish Sox fans would let bygones be bygones. You can hate his kids if you want if you hated their tweets, but Ozzie? Every tape I watch of the guy makes me laugh or happy he was our skipper. I guess we all agree to disagree. But again, critique this tape for me. I give it an A again for class/humor. http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogallery...tion-in-Chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Buehrle time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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