fathom Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 11:21 PM) Our CF situation is a mess??? What??? If you can't trust him to turn in another good year then you can officially put every single position down as a question mark. ADA told the team he was more comfortable in LF than CF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 04:20 PM) Monday night? Que 'Taps' ... It's over Which is more unlikely, 1-3 or 0-4 from DETROIT or 4-0/3-1 from the White Sox the next four? Both seem completely improbable. Especially with David Price going tmrw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Eat portions of contracts where possible ... Complete rebuild please. Let's go Rick, let's see those Moneyball skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 7-0, way to keep up the fight. LOL blow it up, this team is going no place as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Wow this is bad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Game and likely the season over in Minnesota. Cabrera ties Hamilton with 43 homers, Triple Crown looming. Line drive blast, 5-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 05:22 PM) ADA told the team he was more comfortable in LF than CF. He's played a very good CF, I don't give a f*** what he likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 The sooner this season ends, the better. I dont even wnat to see this team in the playoffs, it would just be embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 10:24 PM) The sooner this season ends, the better. I dont even wnat to see this team in the playoffs, it would just be embarrassing. Sorry buddy, have to disagree with you on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Kenny and Jerry have been really quiet of late. Ditto Robin. Without Oz here, not much noise from upstairs. Wonder what KW thinks of this choke-job. It's the same s*** every single game. KW has to be f***ing furious. If he wasn't, wouldn't he have sought out the media to blame injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 10:24 PM) He's played a very good CF, I don't give a f*** what he likes He has? He's been average. Nothing great, nothing awful. I'd prefer he play a little more shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZZZA Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Sorry buddy, have to disagree with you on this Why, are you still holding out hope that we catch a spark and suddenly start being good again? It ain't happening. Not without divine intervention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 06:24 PM) He's played a very good CF, I don't give a f*** what he likes Really? The same that plays almost sitting on the wall??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 05:25 PM) Kenny and Jerry have been really quiet of late. Ditto Robin. Without Oz here, not much noise from upstairs. Wonder what KW thinks of this choke-job. It's the same s*** every single game. KW has to be f***ing furious. If he wasn't, wouldn't he have sought out the media to blame injuries? KW is doing what he should do -- letting it all shake out. b****ing and moaning doesn't get you anywhere, if you want to rewrite the story of September by talking about injuries you can do that later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 10:24 PM) The sooner this season ends, the better. I dont even wnat to see this team in the playoffs, it would just be embarrassing. There's the chance we might have gotten shut out every playoff game which you are right, would be embarrassing. But as we all know, the season has four games left. So rest easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 04:21 PM) Our CF situation is a mess??? What??? If you can't trust him to turn in another good year then you can officially put every single position down as a question mark. Quintana is far more likely to stay in our rotation for a long time than he is to become "2012 Humber." Q is 23 and Humber is 29. Q has done nothing but succeed as a professional baseball player as opposed to Humber who floundered everywhere and several years at the highest levels before catching fire for us. Q has much more going for him and it would be much more of a surprise if he became unserviceable rather than maybe a slight regression It's going to be like Mark Buehrle Version 2.0 the first 2-3 seasons of his career. Nothing will be given to him, he's going to have to prove himself year after year. To me, one area he REALLY needs to improve upon is fielding his position. He's another verson of Clayton Richard, and not in a good way. And not sure how much of it is further coaching, and how much of it is he's just really bad at that aspect of the game. But he's been a gamer and bulldog for most of the season and showed up in key situations where veterans were spitting the bit. Edited September 29, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (RZZZA @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 10:26 PM) Why, are you still holding out hope that we catch a spark and suddenly start being good again? It ain't happening. Not without divine intervention. The statement about not wanting to see the team in the playoffs. It would have been great to see and get some sort of reward for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 05:26 PM) He has? He's been average. Nothing great, nothing awful. I'd prefer he play a little more shallow. I'm thinking in terms of his defense being good (in the sense that he's clearly a capable CF, does not need to be moved off the position) and the fact that his bat is much more valuable in that position given what I said about his defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 10:26 PM) KW is doing what he should do -- letting it all shake out. b****ing and moaning doesn't get you anywhere, if you want to rewrite the story of September by talking about injuries you can do that later Everyone knows the players are choking. Complaining in the media about them isn't going to help that. Just about everyone on the team has struggled down the stretch or failed miserably in big spots, so calling out one or two guys isn't going to help anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I wonder why Dweezy is good for a long stretch then so bad. Must be the nature of baseball when you have average skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 05:27 PM) It's going to be like Mark Buehrle Version 2.0 the first 2-3 seasons of his career. Nothing will be given to him, he's going to have to prove himself year after year. To me, one area he REALLY needs to improve upon is fielding his position. He's another verson of Clayton Richard, and not in a good way. And not sure how much of it is further coaching, and how much of it is he's just really bad at that aspect of the game. But he's been a gamer and bulldog for most of the season and showed up in key situations where veterans were spitting the bit. Yep, he'll always have to produce. We can also send him to the minors if he starts out slowly since we have just a hair of depth at the position (assuming Hector, Axelrod aren't in the MLB rotation and guys like Castro and Leesman keep it up in the MiLB). The book won't be closed on Q for a long time and I'd say the future is very bright. A 180 IP, 4.00 ERA season seems very possible next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Does a 4 mil buyout of Peavy's contract count toward this year's payroll, or next year's? How do they look at that? I have the Sox at 72.75 mil next year for 8 players. 82.25 if you include Floyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 04:25 PM) Sorry buddy, have to disagree with you on this If the season is over, Sale deserves the rest and he's just looking nothing like the same pitcher at USCF he was the first 4 months of the season. Peavy and Quintana have both been pushed to the limit as well. Don't even know who our 3rd starter is right now. Presumably Gavin Floyd. Frankly, it reminds me of an Iowa/OSU football game at Kinnick when I was an undergrad we led the whole way until the final play of the game. Except that shocking, as it happened in just a 3-4 hour timespan and this one wasn't completely unpredictable or unexpected as the trend lines started to develop the last month or so. Edited September 29, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 06:30 PM) Yep, he'll always have to produce. We can also send him to the minors if he starts out slowly since we have just a hair of depth at the position (assuming Hector, Axelrod aren't in the MLB rotation and guys like Castro and Leesman keep it up in the MiLB). The book won't be closed on Q for a long time and I'd say the future is very bright. A 180 IP, 4.00 ERA season seems very possible next year Agree with ya about Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 29, 2012 -> 05:28 PM) I wonder why Dweezy is good for a long stretch then so bad. Must be the nature of baseball when you have average skills. Yeah probably an issue of sample size and favorable match ups at first. I'm sure people started scouting him more thoroughly after he started getting more at bats, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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